Say what you like - Khan should never have won

**Mark TKO** · 03-20-2009 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by GAME

Originally Posted by Mark TKO

yep - just like Lewis v Vitali

It's a tough one. Barrera wanted to continue, the ref and doctor were probably shitting themselves in case they stopped it and the crowd got a tad upset

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Agree about the fact it's all been blown into a roaring Khan success and hiow he is now world class again though

I now honestly think a rematch needs to happen to draw a line under it. Am surprised MAB hasn't made noises about one

Nah Lewis beat Vitali fair and sqaure . He punched Vitali until he could no longer go on . Thats a legit stoppage . No headbutts involved but when a guy nuts the other in the opening seconds they shouldnt have waited conveniently until round 5 to stop it . They only made Barrera suffer that long so they could call Khan the winner.

Yes I know Lewis beat Vitali fair and square - which is why I said that ??

**Majesty** · 03-20-2009 07:39 PM

Wonder whats gonna happen when Khan when Khan wins again

Probably the same journalists will be saying that the cut caused Barerra the loss will be saying Barerra should havent fought again and how easily Khan handled him in the first fight showed he had nothing left...

And suddenly the cut will not be a factor in Barerra's performance of the first fight, it will be evidence he was past it, and Khan will get no credit once again.

Another lose-lose situation

**Tins06** · 03-20-2009 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by Majesty

Wonder whats gonna happen when Khan when Khan wins again

Probably the same journalists will be saying that the cut caused Barerra the loss will be saying Barerra should havent fought again and how easily Khan handled him in the first fight showed he had nothing left...

And suddenly the cut will not be a factor in Barerra's performance of the first fight, it will be evidence he was past it, and Khan will get no credit once again.

Another lose-lose situation

I have to agree. Maybe it should have been a NC but i still think Khan beats him again, to big to fast.

Also I aint payin to watch it again.Im sure alot of other people wouldn't either. Makes no sense for Khan now. his team wanna take the confidence he gained and move on.

**Tilt A Whirl** · 03-21-2009 07:31 AM

Ok,going way smaller,but to put it in to perspective,Rivas's people want a rematch and so do we,because it got screwed up by a bad corner,and we arent sure who would have won.
So Rivas isnt sure she won,and we arent sure we lost.
Khan should want the same thing if he was a true warrior,he should want to prove that wasnt a fluke,or because of the cut,but that he can really beat the man.
Tap tap on the heart to Lorissa for being more of a warrior then Khan is.
I actually wanted to like Khan,but he's being a total douche

**rjj tszyu** · 03-21-2009 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by Majesty

Wonder whats gonna happen when Khan when Khan wins again

Probably the same journalists will be saying that the cut caused Barerra the loss will be saying Barerra should havent fought again and how easily Khan handled him in the first fight showed he had nothing left...

And suddenly the cut will not be a factor in Barerra's performance of the first fight, it will be evidence he was past it, and Khan will get no credit once again.

Another lose-lose situation

So are you trying to say that the cut had no bearing on Barrera's performance?

Well I'm sorry but when you have that much blood pissing in your eyes that you surely can't see, you are at a disadvantage. Even Ali needed his eyes, remember the first fight with Liston when he was blinded? He had to dance and stay out of the way until his vision cleared and then got back into his groove and tormented Sonny into quitting.

I think that a similar thing could have happened here but Barrera was never going to clear up because it was a CUT that was making him blind and therefore due to the severity of the cut initially, it should have been waved off at the end of round 1 and ultimately called a NC.

**Majesty** · 03-21-2009 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by rjj tszyu

Originally Posted by Majesty

Wonder whats gonna happen when Khan when Khan wins again

Probably the same journalists will be saying that the cut caused Barerra the loss will be saying Barerra should havent fought again and how easily Khan handled him in the first fight showed he had nothing left...

And suddenly the cut will not be a factor in Barerra's performance of the first fight, it will be evidence he was past it, and Khan will get no credit once again.

Another lose-lose situation

So are you trying to say that the cut had no bearing on Barrera's performance?

Well I'm sorry but when you have that much blood pissing in your eyes that you surely can't see, you are at a disadvantage. Even Ali needed his eyes, remember the first fight with Liston when he was blinded? He had to dance and stay out of the way until his vision cleared and then got back into his groove and tormented Sonny into quitting.

I think that a similar thing could have happened here but Barrera was never going to clear up because it was a CUT that was making him blind and therefore due to the severity of the cut initially, it should have been waved off at the end of round 1 and ultimately called a NC.

What im saying is when Khan wins the rematch he will get no credit still.

Because the reason Barerra lost will be because he was past it and the first fight with Khan will be used as evidence for that, and rather then the journalists saying the cut was the reason Barerra looked bad, they will say the reason was he was past it and the fight just proved it.

So its a lose-lose for Khan. What I mean is to the journalists the cut means something now..

But if they rematch and Khan wins they will say that the first fight was evidence Barerra was past it and somehow the cut theory will be ignored.

**Howlin Mad Missy** · 03-21-2009 11:59 AM

2 minutes of action 7 or 8 punches land, sorry but Mystic Meg could not predict the outcome.

**jamiebhoy** · 03-23-2009 12:17 AM

Having only just seen the fight at the weekend I would have to agree that the fight should have been stopped straight away. The ring doctor looked to be asking him if he wanted to go on....Duh, what fighter of that calbre is going to say no, it wasn't just your standard cut but a huge gash which rumoured here will take 6 months to heal properly before he can fight again.
As someone who wanted to see Khan do well I think he needs to avenge his big loss then have a rematch with MAB, if he came through both THEN the critics would be silenced and maybe he would get back some support.( Assuming he can offer some humility)

I don't think he will continue to fight out of the UK for much longer, using the press/public critics as an excuse to go Stateside.Now that he won't beat the record for youngest World Champ from UK he should recognise he has plenty of time and look to clear up his record.

**Jimanuel Boogustus** · 03-23-2009 06:19 AM

It was a shambles. Im growing ever more tired of boxing, it sucks. (did i just say that

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Well, its true. Shit like this gives me reason to not get excited about upcoming fights, prospects etc... I just give up with boxing. British Boxing especially..!

I'm not even that fussed about the Pac Hatton fight..