Quote Originally Posted by Britkid
Quote Originally Posted by squealpiggy
Does anyone really think that Valuev would have ever beaten Muhammed Ali, Joe Louis, Rocky Marciano, Jack Dempsey, Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis, Vitali Klitschko, Joe Frazier, Evander Holyfield etc etc?
Marciano, Dempsey and maybe even Frazier if his chin is good enough...

Evolution, means Valuev puts himself in a great posiition to beat all three of them, IMO.
LOL...evolution!??!? are you saying that Valuev is more evolved than the fighters mentioned not to get into a darwinian discussion with you but I doubt Valuev is more "evolved" than even anyone on this board ...Nutrition and training have gotten better but but I doubt Valuev is anything more than a "freak" that was discovered by some very motivated promoters...does a mediocre giant beat a mediocre small guy? yes....but have you seen Valuev fight Johnny Ruiz gave him everything he could handle and in my opinion won!....Jesse Willard was easily knocked stiff by Dempsey, Frazier crushed Ernie Terrell, Holyfield and Tyson had pretty good runs too....I adhere to the Vince Lombardi philosophy "it's not the size of the dog in the fight...it's the size of the fight in the dog"...of course, this is within reason...I doubt Valuev beats any of the champions mentioned above...but that's only my opinion