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Re: I think RJJ will surprise people
He got a cut says it all? I am surprised Joe couldn't stop him, even though Roy couldn't see out of one eye for half the fight. People will look back at their fight years from now and realize that Joe really wasn't that impressive in the fight, he could barely land anything, he was showboating, but getting hit flush as a result of it, that Roy who was a shade of his former self held his own until he got that bad cut, and besides outworking Roy, Joe really didn't outbox him.
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I agree, as long as he takes it a bit slow and works his way up to a big one. Beat a few (maybe two) more Sheika types and then take on one more top tier guy. But if he can't pull the trigger in those easier fight even though he wins them, call it a caree and leave with dignity and grace.
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And I also believe my sig says it all.
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I think he made the mistake of fighting Joe Calzaghe who was way too much for him, at this stage in his career he can't fight pressure fighters, he needs to fight guys who will try to box against him. He has the handspeed and the reflexes still to be successful in this style of fight, but because people are not used to Roy fighting off the ropes, and people have never given a lot of credit to this defensive style which Winky has also not been given much credit for using, I think Roy has to back up his opponents, because when his back is against the ropes I think people see him turtling and get the wrong impression. If you look back to Ali, even he got hit a solidly a lot more than Roy is getting hit now.
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The only big fight for him is Hopkins and there's no way he beats Hopkins.
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Calzaghe slapped the hell out of Jones, and it was no headbutt that caused that cutOriginally Posted by Taeth
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Joe could have knocked jones out but carried him to the end of the fight. Calzaghe purposely didn't ko jones when he easily could have. Calzaghe held back.
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Calzaghe could barely land anything clean, and most of the time he only did so by throwing unorthodox punches that because of their design carried no weight behind them.
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yea Joe didn't land shit, i'm sure it was Jones' corner that cut open his eye to make the fight more dramatic ala WWE
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yea Joe didn't land shit, i'm sure it was Jones' corner that cut open his eye to make the fight more dramatic ala WWE
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I know his fans still have faith, but mine is gone. Jones did the same thing against felix, looked okay but against top competition i don't give him much of a chance anymore. He'll probably get another big fight against someone older than he is....but for what ?? The fans...sure i guess. But as far making a real dent in the sport anymore i don't think so. A b-hop match-up a couple of decades ago would have been nice but a fight now just gives either guy a million and a half excuses for why they lost afterward if anything.
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Before I say absolutely anything I got to see the fight vs Sheika
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Yeah because cuts can't be caused by glancing blows? In fact its more likely to happen from a glancing blow, how often are cuts around the eyes caused by cleanly landed punches? Its usually the cuff or the seem of the glove that cause cuts like that, or a glancing blow which was Calzaghe mostly landed. Roy landed more flush punches than Joe did, it just wasn't enough when Calzaghe half landed twice as many punches.yea Joe didn't land shit, i'm sure it was Jones' corner that cut open his eye to make the fight more dramatic ala WWE
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Jones is shot dude, he looked good on Saturday against another shot fighter the same way he looked good against Trinidad who also is *gasp* shot.Yeah because cuts can't be caused by glancing blows? In fact its more likely to happen from a glancing blow, how often are cuts around the eyes caused by cleanly landed punches? Its usually the cuff or the seem of the glove that cause cuts like that, or a glancing blow which was Calzaghe mostly landed. Roy landed more flush punches than Joe did, it just wasn't enough when Calzaghe half landed twice as many punches.yea Joe didn't land shit, i'm sure it was Jones' corner that cut open his eye to make the fight more dramatic ala WWE
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Calzaghe completely clowned RJJ. Calzaghe took mercy on him for the final three rounds. It was obvious.
Effective volume punching is a skill. If not, why didn't RJJ neutralize it? Why didn't Bhop neutralize it? Why didn't Kessler?
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