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    Default Re: I think RJJ will surprise people

    I know his fans still have faith, but mine is gone. Jones did the same thing against felix, looked okay but against top competition i don't give him much of a chance anymore. He'll probably get another big fight against someone older than he is....but for what ?? The fans...sure i guess. But as far making a real dent in the sport anymore i don't think so. A b-hop match-up a couple of decades ago would have been nice but a fight now just gives either guy a million and a half excuses for why they lost afterward if anything.
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    Default Re: I think RJJ will surprise people

    Before I say absolutely anything I got to see the fight vs Sheika

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    Default Re: I think RJJ will surprise people

    I think the only fight left for him is a hopkins rematch.. and I would give my left AND right nut to see it. The only problems I see is roy jones demanding the larger share of the $'s (as he did in the original proposed rematch) as one last big payoff before he retires. Although this time around I think Hopkins would deserve the bigger share... or maybe even a equal split.

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    Default Re: I think RJJ will surprise people

    I don't think he would expect the lion share anymore, that would be foolish, anyways if I am wrong feel free to throw it in my face guys, but I have a feeling he's going to win a fight that will surprise everyone before all is said and done.

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    Default Re: I think RJJ will surprise people

    I actually said straight after the Calzaghe fight that I wouldn't be suprised to see Jones go on to beat Hopkins in a rematch.

    If he fights on the golden oldie tour there are a bunch of fights that he could be very competitive in and win.

    Hopkins would be a great fight.

    Not sure if people would want to see this but I also think a fight with Chris Byrd at cruiserweight would be a possibility, both former world champs, Byrd a former legit heavyweight champ, not a terrible matchup in my opinion.

    If James Toney could ever get his diet sorted him and Jones for a second time would be a nice way to end their careers.

    If Winky beats Paul Williams that could be a natural fight as well.

    Actually Paul Williams himself might fancy it and that would be one hell of a fight too.

    All these fights would be watchable and winnable for Roy Jones.

    I don't want to see him fighting legit guys who are coming to win and knock his head off. Definitely don't want to see him in with guys like Chad Dawson, Kelly Pavlik, Kessler etc I think he's too old and doesn't need to be taking on such guys when he's probably only around 75% of the fighter he was.

    The other fighters mentioned are all past their prime too though with the exception of Williams who would be well out of his weight class so a fair matchup.

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    Default Re: I think RJJ will surprise people

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    I actually said straight after the Calzaghe fight that I wouldn't be suprised to see Jones go on to beat Hopkins in a rematch.

    If he fights on the golden oldie tour there are a bunch of fights that he could be very competitive in and win.

    Hopkins would be a great fight.

    Not sure if people would want to see this but I also think a fight with Chris Byrd at cruiserweight would be a possibility, both former world champs, Byrd a former legit heavyweight champ, not a terrible matchup in my opinion.

    If James Toney could ever get his diet sorted him and Jones for a second time would be a nice way to end their careers.

    If Winky beats Paul Williams that could be a natural fight as well.

    Actually Paul Williams himself might fancy it and that would be one hell of a fight too.

    All these fights would be watchable and winnable for Roy Jones.

    I don't want to see him fighting legit guys who are coming to win and knock his head off. Definitely don't want to see him in with guys like Chad Dawson, Kelly Pavlik, Kessler etc I think he's too old and doesn't need to be taking on such guys when he's probably only around 75% of the fighter he was.

    The other fighters mentioned are all past their prime too though with the exception of Williams who would be well out of his weight class so a fair matchup.
    I think him against Chad Dawson would be interesting because Dawson isn't a pressure fighter, has solid punches, but hasn't taken out elite opponents, and both of them are amazingly fast. Roy has a great body, and has always been able to take the body shots which Dawson lands about as well as anyone, but I think Jones wouldn't get annihilated by Dawson or Kessler. Against Pavlik it could really go either way, he could get smashed up against the ropes, or move and befuddle, and maybe even knock Kelly out.

    But like you said I think his style suits him best against Hopkins.

    I think Wright is a terrible choice, he's harder to hit than Joe, he's a pressure fighter can throw a ton of punches, I think he could make jones look terrible. I would have loved to see them fight near their primes.

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    Default Re: I think RJJ will surprise people

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    I actually said straight after the Calzaghe fight that I wouldn't be suprised to see Jones go on to beat Hopkins in a rematch.

    If he fights on the golden oldie tour there are a bunch of fights that he could be very competitive in and win.

    Hopkins would be a great fight.

    Not sure if people would want to see this but I also think a fight with Chris Byrd at cruiserweight would be a possibility, both former world champs, Byrd a former legit heavyweight champ, not a terrible matchup in my opinion.

    If James Toney could ever get his diet sorted him and Jones for a second time would be a nice way to end their careers.

    If Winky beats Paul Williams that could be a natural fight as well.

    Actually Paul Williams himself might fancy it and that would be one hell of a fight too.

    All these fights would be watchable and winnable for Roy Jones.

    I don't want to see him fighting legit guys who are coming to win and knock his head off. Definitely don't want to see him in with guys like Chad Dawson, Kelly Pavlik, Kessler etc I think he's too old and doesn't need to be taking on such guys when he's probably only around 75% of the fighter he was.

    The other fighters mentioned are all past their prime too though with the exception of Williams who would be well out of his weight class so a fair matchup.
    I think him against Chad Dawson would be interesting because Dawson isn't a pressure fighter, has solid punches, but hasn't taken out elite opponents, and both of them are amazingly fast. Roy has a great body, and has always been able to take the body shots which Dawson lands about as well as anyone, but I think Jones wouldn't get annihilated by Dawson or Kessler. Against Pavlik it could really go either way, he could get smashed up against the ropes, or move and befuddle, and maybe even knock Kelly out.

    But like you said I think his style suits him best against Hopkins.

    I think Wright is a terrible choice, he's harder to hit than Joe, he's a pressure fighter can throw a ton of punches, I think he could make jones look terrible. I would have loved to see them fight near their primes.
    I see on boxingtalk that a fight with him and Jeff Lacy is a likely possibility. I like that matchup, good chance for one of them to get back in the mix and a winnable fight for both guys.

    @ElterribleMorales, Just because someone is not at their prime doesn't mean they are 'shot'. Like any sport the differences in ability at the very highest level are marginal and if a fighter just slips say 5 percent then all of a sudden he's going to find guys a tier below him much more of a handful than before.

    Nobody could watch the display that Jones Jr put on against Sheika last weekend or even Calzaghe a few months ago and say he is 'shot',

    Past his prime undoubtably, not the great force he once was yes, yes agreed but he's a long way from being shot.

    A shot fighter doesn't go 12 rounds with the number 3 p4p guy in the world.

    Jones could still beat virtually all of the ranked righters out there in his weight class and at 168. He's slipped and is no longer absolute top tier but to say he's shot is an overstatement and also a disservice to all those fighters he's still capable of beating.

    Even at 40 against Sheika he still showed the skills, speed, charisma and brilliance that seperated him from everyone else the last 15 years.

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    Default Re: I think RJJ will surprise people

    I think he should go for a Woods rematch

    If he beats Woods in style not only has he legitimately jumped the rankings to actually earn a shot but Woods name is quite recognisable to the casual fan now I think, so its a fairly marketable fight that actually means a bit.

    Do it in the UK and make a mint on the gate from the UK fans that never got to see him live, then at least he can say he travelled

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    Default Re: I think RJJ will surprise people

    His old legs cant keep him off the damn ropes. Hes still good in the center of the ring, but hes been laying on the ropes too much for too long now. Thats not going to change, and neither will his sucess at the top level.
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    Default Re: I think RJJ will surprise people

    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoom View Post
    His old legs cant keep him off the damn ropes. Hes still good in the center of the ring, but hes been laying on the ropes too much for too long now. Thats not going to change, and neither will his sucess at the top level.
    Bingo.Some say Calzaghe carried him,I dont exactly buy that in its truest meaning.But....If Calzaghe spent all of that time that he was clowning,shaking his azz and trying to out showman Roy....and insted asserted and applied for the stoppage...he may of produced it.

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