Best/Most Efficient Way to Bulk up?

[Chris24-7]

Are you into boxing? If so, you don't want to get bigger, all you want to do is get stronger. I'm a thin guy but I'm very strong for my weight, people are suprised by my power all the time even though on the outside I look rather weak. Do you want to get stronger or you want to get bigger? They are two very different things.

Yes i'm a fighter but I would've thought that by getting stronger getting bigger came with the package? Strength is what im looking for as it is for my fighting
Im intruged to hear what you do if thats the case

[wesrman]

Lift heavy but dont overdo the calories.

Heers a couple more links to check out.
RossTraining.com • Index page

RossTraining - Articles

[Chris24-7]

Lift heavy but dont overdo the calories.

Heers a couple more links to check out.
RossTraining.com • Index page

RossTraining - Articles

Thanks again man! I'll rep you when I can

[:::PSL:::]

Eat lots of high protein goodies. Trail mix, beef jerkys, steaks, any candy bar with 30gm+ protein (real cheap at the cosco), and work out like an animal.

[Rocky Balboa]

Yes i'm a fighter but I would've thought that by getting stronger getting bigger came with the package? Strength is what im looking for as it is for my fighting
Im intruged to hear what you do if thats the case

Size and strength are two very different things. I learnt to train via Ross Enamait's books (see wesrman's links). His books are absolutely great! They are worth their weight in gold and taught me a boat-load of stuff. I have "Never Gymless", a book on only bodyweight exercise, and it goes way beyond just push-ups and squats. The book teaches you how to make a good program (for a combat athelete) to give you maximal strength, explosive strength, endurance strength, anaerobic conditioning, and aerobic conditioning. When I first got it, I spent 4 hours reading that book without stopping for an instant. I learnt a ton. I highly recommend any of his three books. Every single sentence in there teaches you a ton. It will explain WAY more than I can in a single thread.

[El Kabong]

Well if you're trying to bulk up just for looks then burn outs and "pumping" when you're tired works pretty good along with good nutrition, lots of protein after workouts.

You may want to stagger your workouts so you focus on certain muscle groups on certain days, for example Monday: Chest & Back Tuesday: Biceps & Triceps.

You may also want to try super setting to really feel the burn. For example on biceps I do 3 sets of 7 reps for curls but I do 3 types of curls back to back to back. 1st from a resting position (while you're standing up or leaning against a wall to keep from rocking, the bar is down at your hips)...so from resting position to the halfway point of a regular curl and then back down in a slow and controlled manner, do that 7 times. Do not rest, the 2nd exercise starts with the bar resting in the finished full curl position and you go halfway down and then back up to the resting position, once again 7 times. Once you have done a set of the halfway up and halfway down curls you do not rest and you do a set of full curls. You want to start out heavy and end light....I used to start with a 45 on each side and then go down 5/10 pounds on each side every time I finished a full set until I was just curling the bar. And when I got to the lighter weights (under 20 pounds a side) I would work in reverse curls, where the grip is reversed but the exercise is the exact same. If you do that and maybe throw in some dips (either real dips or the seated ones with the machine like a little girl )

When you bench you start off with lighter weight well do that maybe 10 times, add weight do that maybe 8 times, add weight and do that 6 times and if you are a glutton for punishment you can go back down the 8 and 10 reps....it'll hurt you

[wesrman]

He already stated that he doesnt want to bulk..lol. He just wants to get stronger.

[Youngblood]

Going by the title, I will assume he wants to add weight as well as strengthen.

OP, in the last year I have gained 25 lbs. Now granted, this is in part simple due to normal growth as I've grown nearly 3 inches in that time as well but I made it a point to work on strength training and muscle building during.

It has been largely successful due to a combination of eating, workouts and supplements. First thing I did was overhaul my diet and got rid of all processed and junk food. All snacks, pop, fast food etc. Then I had a diet put together for me that essentially worked well-rounded hitting all the food group meals into my day. Above and beyond that, paying attention to load up on carbs pre workout, an making sure to have protein after.

One thing I found is that when I began intense workouts, I was often experience many muscle strains and aches. It was then I decided to incorporate supplementing. Thru this board and various other boxers and trainers, I found that it was helpful to start taking a combination of post workout whey protein + L-glutamine. 30 grams pure protein and 5 grams glutamine 10-15 mins after each intense workout, for both running and weight...and also long sparring sessions. What I found was the strains and aches immediately went away and I began to really then notice a difference in muscle growth. I also take a good liquid multi vitamin and glucosamine.

My routine is and was very regimented, one day weight/strength training, the next cardio and skill oriented. Proper days off for rest etc. Making sure to change it up as I go understanding plateau to maximize potential as well.

Anyway, this is just a brief look into what has worked for me over the last year in my goal which sounds similar to yours, as I too am very tall for my age and was exactly where you seem to be now as for gaining strength and power on a lean frame. If you want specifics as to workout types and schedules used during etc, I can send stuff/routines I've done to you to maybe try out.

Good luck and welcome to Saddos.

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[El Kabong]

He already stated that he doesnt want to bulk..lol. He just wants to get stronger.

Doesn't really work that way but if you do lighter weights and more reps I guess it will do more toning but eventually you grow muscle and bulk up a bit and the best way to keep from getting "musclebound" is to stretch before and after working out.

[wesrman]

Ya it works that way.

Many people get stronger without adding weight. Olympic lifters do it all the time, and ive done it many times.

If you dont eat more calories than you burn, you wont gain weight. But you can still be getting stronger while maintaining a certain weight or close to it.

[El Kabong]

If you add muscle you add weight...you can strengthen muscles only so much before gaining more weight unless you overtrain and then you lose weight....I fell victim to overtraining and dropped 46 pounds in a matter of maybe 1 1/2-2 months....but I wasn't stronger on account of how much weight I dropped

[wesrman]

Are you into boxing? If so, you don't want to get bigger, all you want to do is get stronger. I'm a thin guy but I'm very strong for my weight, people are suprised by my power all the time even though on the outside I look rather weak. Do you want to get stronger or you want to get bigger? They are two very different things.

Yes i'm a fighter but I would've thought that by getting stronger getting bigger came with the package? Strength is what im looking for as it is for my fighting
Im intruged to hear what you do if thats the case

^^ Read the thread before posting Youngblood. :P

[Youngblood]

[^^ Read the thread before posting Youngblood. :P

I read every word of it.

And try reading my post properly and save the dikshit stuff for off topic threads. Not everyone in boxing only wants to get stronger and not bigger. For some, and I think you would understand this being a hard gainer, adding weight with strength/muscle is the goal. As stated in my first line, I was addressing the thread title, then providing my back story. The OP can take from the thread what he wants, and hopefully it is many perspectives.

This is a boxing training forum and we all come with differing views and approaches, goals. I hope we don't all agree on every topic, otherwise we are likely to often be wrong following one path like sheep.

So yea, that.

[wesrman]

No need to get all pissy about it, i was kidding. Just because its not off topic doesnt mean we cant have a bit of fun.

You started your post with this:
"Going by the title, I will assume he wants to add weight as well as strengthen."
He stated that he doesnt want to bulk, he was confused.

Thats why i said read the thread. So relax a bit buddy, its only the interwebs.