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Talk to blokes in the pub etc Bilbo. :-/
Without exception every single non boxing fan mate I have laughed their asses off when Amir Khan got sparked. I was actually out clubbing the night it happened and was in a pub when he got sparked. Somebody asked a barman if he knew how the fight went and he said he got sparked in 30 seconds to which everyone within earshot (about 30 or so people) all cheered and laughed and said 'haha the paki cunt'.

I'm sure this happened in pubs around the country.

I can't imagine any casual sports fan in a pub seriously saying that Khan boxed superbly against Barrera and showed great improvement everyone will be saying he's a paki twat and they hate him.

Sorry if that offends people but that IS the reality if you go to any pub on a Friday or Satruday night and ask random blokes what they think of him.

I'd say 3 out 5 would say the exact word 'fucking paki twat'.

Ironicallly I don't really see this as racism in a sinister sense as much as I do just normal drunken laddish behaviour but I do find your idea of drunken blokes in a pub debating the Khan Barrera fight in a respectful manner to be quite nieve.
No, that really is racism, it doesn't have to involve lynchings to classify as it. Mate, normal drunken laddish behaviour must have some very worrying connotations in your bits of England
Nah what I mean is it that the vast majority of those who say that arn't saying because they have Hitler Germany type cleansing beliefs of different races but more because they are drunken loutish lads to whom slagging someone off on behalf of their colour is no different from slagging them off because of their size, regional birth place, whether they wear glasses, physical appearance etc.

These same people if they were Man Utf fans might tell you that Steve Gerrard a is bindipping scouse cunt or that Jade Goody is an ugly thick as shit fat pig, or that Timmy Mallet is a four eyed fucking weird freak etc.

There's no specific hate reserved for Khan on account of his race than there is for those other people on account of their club loyalties, perceived lack of talent, being a glasses wearing oddball etc.

That's what I mean when I don;t consider it racism as those remarks about Khan constitute something more sinister and worrying than the other remarks drunken blokes will make about other people.


Anyway this is way off topic! Basically the point I am challenging is the idea that casual sports fan and the general public are in any way hyped up for Khan and that in particular people sing his praises in pubs. I have never heard his praise being sung by an ordinary bloke on the street who wasn't a boxing fan, ever. In fact I'd say he's up there with Jade Goody in the list of those people who are struggling to achieve widespread respect.

I imagine Missy and Miles views of Amir Khan are echoed by millions more people than my own in that I really like and respect the kid and think he has the talent to go a long way. If you ran a pub poll and asked opinions I think my view would not be nationally shared one.

Incidently this has to do with hype more than race imo. I don't know any non hardcore boxing fans who like Audley Harrsion or James De Gale. Again two fighters that have very negative connotations around them and who will always struggle to find respect, at least until they really achieve something.