I know that. Im just giving these guys there crdit. Obviously someone like Martin Rogan doesnt have the skill of one of the brothers. Thats not my piont though. Its just sad that some of the talented guys of the division throw it all away by being lazy. The Klits are the best heavyweights in the world. They have good skill (Wlad moreso), size, power, but they also train hard, and it shows.