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    Default Re: Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

    I know berto has the belt and all, but this is exactly the type of guy he needs to be fighting right now. He and we all know he isn't ready for the top of the division right now. Collazo..he's been there done that, every close fight doesn't deserve a rematch instead another good fight with someone else is better imo. Berto fell into the belt prematurely he knows that, this fight will be decent i don't blame berto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mar View Post
    I know berto has the belt and all, but this is exactly the type of guy he needs to be fighting right now. He and we all know he isn't ready for the top of the division right now. Collazo..he's been there done that, every close fight doesn't deserve a rematch instead another good fight with someone else is better imo. Berto fell into the belt prematurely he knows that, this fight will be decent i don't blame berto.

    I mean when will Berto be ready He just fought a solid contender and looked pretty average, Collazo imo is the sort of opponent you fight just before your big fight in your career hes a top 10 fighter who comes ready, Urango Im sorry but this is bullshit, Urango is a limited 140 lb fighter Berto is the WBC Champ ffs, he neeeds to be ready now if not he needs to stop pretending hes a world champion.

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    What are people talking about? Urango is terrible, and a huge step down. He's similar to the guy Berto beat to get the belt. He doesn't need speed bumps right now, its time to see if he can fly or not. When he doesn't square up and throw haymakers he is amazing, but then he throws telegraphed punches that make him easy to counter, and he is wide open when he starts throw widely. There are times however where he is very tactical, he is one of the best athletes to ever grace boxing, but he needs to utilize that ability along with the boxing skills which he does have, if he wants to compete at the top level. IMO he should be going to Floyd Snr to tighten up that defense, and keep it tight because he is super hard to hit when he doesn't want to be, but he gets drawn into slugfests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    What are people talking about? Urango is terrible, and a huge step down. He's similar to the guy Berto beat to get the belt. He doesn't need speed bumps right now, its time to see if he can fly or not. When he doesn't square up and throw haymakers he is amazing, but then he throws telegraphed punches that make him easy to counter, and he is wide open when he starts throw widely. There are times however where he is very tactical, he is one of the best athletes to ever grace boxing, but he needs to utilize that ability along with the boxing skills which he does have, if he wants to compete at the top level. IMO he should be going to Floyd Snr to tighten up that defense, and keep it tight because he is super hard to hit when he doesn't want to be, but he gets drawn into slugfests.
    I think this proves what most of us thought Berto is not elite i mean how more gimmes does this guy want??

    I think they wont throw him in there with a top Welterweight because they know he will not win, i think Clottley would of been a decent scrap and if Berto fought a clever fight could win but fighting Urango is a joke.

    I dont knwo why Berto gets away with an easy ride with this fight, people should be slating him to the high hills, imagine Cotto, Hatton fighters like that took a fight against Urango they would be geting abused from all angles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    What are people talking about? Urango is terrible, and a huge step down. He's similar to the guy Berto beat to get the belt. He doesn't need speed bumps right now, its time to see if he can fly or not. When he doesn't square up and throw haymakers he is amazing, but then he throws telegraphed punches that make him easy to counter, and he is wide open when he starts throw widely. There are times however where he is very tactical, he is one of the best athletes to ever grace boxing, but he needs to utilize that ability along with the boxing skills which he does have, if he wants to compete at the top level. IMO he should be going to Floyd Snr to tighten up that defense, and keep it tight because he is super hard to hit when he doesn't want to be, but he gets drawn into slugfests.
    I think this proves what most of us thought Berto is not elite i mean how more gimmes does this guy want??

    I think they wont throw him in there with a top Welterweight because they know he will not win, i think Clottley would of been a decent scrap and if Berto fought a clever fight could win but fighting Urango is a joke.

    I dont knwo why Berto gets away with an easy ride with this fight, people should be slating him to the high hills, imagine Cotto, Hatton fighters like that took a fight against Urango they would be geting abused from all angles.
    Hatton fought Urango

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    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    What are people talking about? Urango is terrible, and a huge step down. He's similar to the guy Berto beat to get the belt. He doesn't need speed bumps right now, its time to see if he can fly or not. When he doesn't square up and throw haymakers he is amazing, but then he throws telegraphed punches that make him easy to counter, and he is wide open when he starts throw widely. There are times however where he is very tactical, he is one of the best athletes to ever grace boxing, but he needs to utilize that ability along with the boxing skills which he does have, if he wants to compete at the top level. IMO he should be going to Floyd Snr to tighten up that defense, and keep it tight because he is super hard to hit when he doesn't want to be, but he gets drawn into slugfests.
    I think this proves what most of us thought Berto is not elite i mean how more gimmes does this guy want??

    I think they wont throw him in there with a top Welterweight because they know he will not win, i think Clottley would of been a decent scrap and if Berto fought a clever fight could win but fighting Urango is a joke.

    I dont knwo why Berto gets away with an easy ride with this fight, people should be slating him to the high hills, imagine Cotto, Hatton fighters like that took a fight against Urango they would be geting abused from all angles.
    What a crappy conclusion! The only thing lining up a fight proves, is availability and the ability to work out a deal.

    Cotto is has been trying to work out a deal with Clottey.
    Judah was trying to make a deal with M. Hatton
    Mosley is sitting out hoping for a Mega fight with the winner of Hatton/Pacquiao.

    What other possibilities does Berto have in your so called elite fighter category?

    Taking on Urango is best match up available for Berto, or perhaps you should call Berto for a job... Matching up fighters at the top of the weight class is tougher than you think!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    What are people talking about? Urango is terrible, and a huge step down. He's similar to the guy Berto beat to get the belt. He doesn't need speed bumps right now, its time to see if he can fly or not. When he doesn't square up and throw haymakers he is amazing, but then he throws telegraphed punches that make him easy to counter, and he is wide open when he starts throw widely. There are times however where he is very tactical, he is one of the best athletes to ever grace boxing, but he needs to utilize that ability along with the boxing skills which he does have, if he wants to compete at the top level. IMO he should be going to Floyd Snr to tighten up that defense, and keep it tight because he is super hard to hit when he doesn't want to be, but he gets drawn into slugfests.
    I think this proves what most of us thought Berto is not elite i mean how more gimmes does this guy want??

    I think they wont throw him in there with a top Welterweight because they know he will not win, i think Clottley would of been a decent scrap and if Berto fought a clever fight could win but fighting Urango is a joke.

    I dont knwo why Berto gets away with an easy ride with this fight, people should be slating him to the high hills, imagine Cotto, Hatton fighters like that took a fight against Urango they would be geting abused from all angles.
    What a crappy conclusion! The only thing lining up a fight proves, is availability and the ability to work out a deal.

    Cotto is has been trying to work out a deal with Clottey.
    Judah was trying to make a deal with M. Hatton
    Mosley is sitting out hoping for a Mega fight with the winner of Hatton/Pacquiao.

    What other possibilities does Berto have in your so called elite fighter category?

    Taking on Urango is best match up available for Berto, or perhaps you should call Berto for a job... Matching up fighters at the top of the weight class is tougher than you think!
    it's better than fighting some dude called Mickey Rodriguez

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    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    What are people talking about? Urango is terrible, and a huge step down. He's similar to the guy Berto beat to get the belt. He doesn't need speed bumps right now, its time to see if he can fly or not. When he doesn't square up and throw haymakers he is amazing, but then he throws telegraphed punches that make him easy to counter, and he is wide open when he starts throw widely. There are times however where he is very tactical, he is one of the best athletes to ever grace boxing, but he needs to utilize that ability along with the boxing skills which he does have, if he wants to compete at the top level. IMO he should be going to Floyd Snr to tighten up that defense, and keep it tight because he is super hard to hit when he doesn't want to be, but he gets drawn into slugfests.
    I think this proves what most of us thought Berto is not elite i mean how more gimmes does this guy want??

    I think they wont throw him in there with a top Welterweight because they know he will not win, i think Clottley would of been a decent scrap and if Berto fought a clever fight could win but fighting Urango is a joke.

    I dont knwo why Berto gets away with an easy ride with this fight, people should be slating him to the high hills, imagine Cotto, Hatton fighters like that took a fight against Urango they would be geting abused from all angles.
    What a crappy conclusion! The only thing lining up a fight proves, is availability and the ability to work out a deal.

    Cotto is has been trying to work out a deal with Clottey.
    Judah was trying to make a deal with M. Hatton
    Mosley is sitting out hoping for a Mega fight with the winner of Hatton/Pacquiao.

    What other possibilities does Berto have in your so called elite fighter category?

    Taking on Urango is best match up available for Berto, or perhaps you should call Berto for a job... Matching up fighters at the top of the weight class is tougher than you think!

    Please are you serious?? Urango is ranked number 5 in the division under 147, hahaha!!

    So you feel there was no one else. Please!! Shocking match making imo.

    Kel i know Hatton has fought Urango it was just an example of a top fighter who would of got slated if he got matched against a limited fighter moving up in weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post

    I think this proves what most of us thought Berto is not elite i mean how more gimmes does this guy want??

    I think they wont throw him in there with a top Welterweight because they know he will not win, i think Clottley would of been a decent scrap and if Berto fought a clever fight could win but fighting Urango is a joke.

    I dont knwo why Berto gets away with an easy ride with this fight, people should be slating him to the high hills, imagine Cotto, Hatton fighters like that took a fight against Urango they would be geting abused from all angles.
    What a crappy conclusion! The only thing lining up a fight proves, is availability and the ability to work out a deal.

    Cotto is has been trying to work out a deal with Clottey.
    Judah was trying to make a deal with M. Hatton
    Mosley is sitting out hoping for a Mega fight with the winner of Hatton/Pacquiao.

    What other possibilities does Berto have in your so called elite fighter category?

    Taking on Urango is best match up available for Berto, or perhaps you should call Berto for a job... Matching up fighters at the top of the weight class is tougher than you think!

    Please are you serious?? Urango is ranked number 5 in the division under 147, hahaha!!

    So you feel there was no one else. Please!! Shocking match making imo.

    Kel i know Hatton has fought Urango it was just an example of a top fighter who would of got slated if he got matched against a limited fighter moving up in weight.
    Berto's only #7 at welter! I think this is a good match-up! If you saw Berto struggle with Collazo why would you want to throw him to the wolves straight away? He needs more seasoning! I agree a Collazo rematch would have been nice but this is still a solid fight imo
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    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post

    I think this proves what most of us thought Berto is not elite i mean how more gimmes does this guy want??

    I think they wont throw him in there with a top Welterweight because they know he will not win, i think Clottley would of been a decent scrap and if Berto fought a clever fight could win but fighting Urango is a joke.

    I dont knwo why Berto gets away with an easy ride with this fight, people should be slating him to the high hills, imagine Cotto, Hatton fighters like that took a fight against Urango they would be geting abused from all angles.
    What a crappy conclusion! The only thing lining up a fight proves, is availability and the ability to work out a deal.

    Cotto is has been trying to work out a deal with Clottey.
    Judah was trying to make a deal with M. Hatton
    Mosley is sitting out hoping for a Mega fight with the winner of Hatton/Pacquiao.

    What other possibilities does Berto have in your so called elite fighter category?

    Taking on Urango is best match up available for Berto, or perhaps you should call Berto for a job... Matching up fighters at the top of the weight class is tougher than you think!

    Please are you serious?? Urango is ranked number 5 in the division under 147, hahaha!!

    So you feel there was no one else. Please!! Shocking match making imo.

    Kel i know Hatton has fought Urango it was just an example of a top fighter who would of got slated if he got matched against a limited fighter moving up in weight.
    Fak king Supa! back up your opinion genius! List the "available" match ups for Berto! Lets us see who's available and out there that make a better fight.
    Last edited by fan johnny; 03-31-2009 at 02:16 PM.

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    Default Re: Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

    Regarding Berto, did you know that Vanes Martirosyan beat him in the amateurs to secure a spot on the 2004 Olympic team?

    In terms of this post, I agree that a rematch with Collazo was due, and that fighting a champion 140 junior welterweight is not necessarily the best match, but if Mosley wouldn't fight him and Cotto and Clottey are fighting eachother, who do you suggest he should fight?
    Last edited by Rantcatrat; 03-31-2009 at 02:00 PM.

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    Default Re: Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

    I don't mind watching this fight. I don't think Berto is up for anyone bigger than Urango at the moment. I do however hope this is a good scrap. Berto will eventually have to step it up a bit but I don't see Berto beating any of the top Welters except maybe Tonya 'Hands of Plaster' Margarita.

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    Default Re: Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

    This is a very good match-up and a decent voluntary defense. Abit surprised its taken this long for Urango to move up in weight as he looks huge at Jnr Welterweight.

    Another good learning fight for Berto against a creditable contender. Berto has superb skills and I'd expect him to beat Urango but it is still a dangerous fight as Urango can bang.

    Berto is about 25 years old so relatively young for a World champion and his management are doing a great job. He's not in his prime and not ready for the Elite but if he keeps progressing then I think he can be a major star in the sport.

    People like Cotto, Mosley etc have bigger fish to fry and bigger money fights so Berto is unlikely to fight any of them soon. All he can do is keep defending his belt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    What are people talking about? Urango is terrible, and a huge step down. He's similar to the guy Berto beat to get the belt. He doesn't need speed bumps right now, its time to see if he can fly or not. When he doesn't square up and throw haymakers he is amazing, but then he throws telegraphed punches that make him easy to counter, and he is wide open when he starts throw widely. There are times however where he is very tactical, he is one of the best athletes to ever grace boxing, but he needs to utilize that ability along with the boxing skills which he does have, if he wants to compete at the top level. IMO he should be going to Floyd Snr to tighten up that defense, and keep it tight because he is super hard to hit when he doesn't want to be, but he gets drawn into slugfests.
    I think this proves what most of us thought Berto is not elite i mean how more gimmes does this guy want??

    I think they wont throw him in there with a top Welterweight because they know he will not win, i think Clottley would of been a decent scrap and if Berto fought a clever fight could win but fighting Urango is a joke.

    I dont knwo why Berto gets away with an easy ride with this fight, people should be slating him to the high hills, imagine Cotto, Hatton fighters like that took a fight against Urango they would be geting abused from all angles.
    I don't think that at all, He beat Forbes easier than Oscar did, he beat Collazo easier than Hatton did. He has all the natural ability in the world, and the right attitude, I just think he needs to keep his defense tight. As for his stamina, I don't see any problems, IMO he is one of the best conditioned guys in the sport, he is still throwing hella fast at the end of the bout, and his reflexes stay sharp.

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    Default Re: Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    What are people talking about? Urango is terrible, and a huge step down. He's similar to the guy Berto beat to get the belt. He doesn't need speed bumps right now, its time to see if he can fly or not. When he doesn't square up and throw haymakers he is amazing, but then he throws telegraphed punches that make him easy to counter, and he is wide open when he starts throw widely. There are times however where he is very tactical, he is one of the best athletes to ever grace boxing, but he needs to utilize that ability along with the boxing skills which he does have, if he wants to compete at the top level. IMO he should be going to Floyd Snr to tighten up that defense, and keep it tight because he is super hard to hit when he doesn't want to be, but he gets drawn into slugfests.
    I think this proves what most of us thought Berto is not elite i mean how more gimmes does this guy want??

    I think they wont throw him in there with a top Welterweight because they know he will not win, i think Clottley would of been a decent scrap and if Berto fought a clever fight could win but fighting Urango is a joke.

    I dont knwo why Berto gets away with an easy ride with this fight, people should be slating him to the high hills, imagine Cotto, Hatton fighters like that took a fight against Urango they would be geting abused from all angles.
    Urkal and Jennings spring to mind.

    I think Urango is a decent test, he's coming off a few highlight reel KO wins. Not sure what he's done at 147 to get a shot but he's a former 140 champ and imo is passable after such a hard fight against Collazo.

    I'd like to see him fight Mosley or Cotto though, but i guess that won't happen until Berto gets another name on his record....and yeah you're right i suppose, Urango won't do in that sense. So long as he follows it up with a live 147er like Clottey then he'll get his shot at the big time....providing he wins.

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