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    Default Re: Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mar View Post
    I know berto has the belt and all, but this is exactly the type of guy he needs to be fighting right now. He and we all know he isn't ready for the top of the division right now. Collazo..he's been there done that, every close fight doesn't deserve a rematch instead another good fight with someone else is better imo. Berto fell into the belt prematurely he knows that, this fight will be decent i don't blame berto.

    I mean when will Berto be ready He just fought a solid contender and looked pretty average, Collazo imo is the sort of opponent you fight just before your big fight in your career hes a top 10 fighter who comes ready, Urango Im sorry but this is bullshit, Urango is a limited 140 lb fighter Berto is the WBC Champ ffs, he neeeds to be ready now if not he needs to stop pretending hes a world champion.

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    Default Re: Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

    What are people talking about? Urango is terrible, and a huge step down. He's similar to the guy Berto beat to get the belt. He doesn't need speed bumps right now, its time to see if he can fly or not. When he doesn't square up and throw haymakers he is amazing, but then he throws telegraphed punches that make him easy to counter, and he is wide open when he starts throw widely. There are times however where he is very tactical, he is one of the best athletes to ever grace boxing, but he needs to utilize that ability along with the boxing skills which he does have, if he wants to compete at the top level. IMO he should be going to Floyd Snr to tighten up that defense, and keep it tight because he is super hard to hit when he doesn't want to be, but he gets drawn into slugfests.

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    Default Re: Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    What are people talking about? Urango is terrible, and a huge step down. He's similar to the guy Berto beat to get the belt. He doesn't need speed bumps right now, its time to see if he can fly or not. When he doesn't square up and throw haymakers he is amazing, but then he throws telegraphed punches that make him easy to counter, and he is wide open when he starts throw widely. There are times however where he is very tactical, he is one of the best athletes to ever grace boxing, but he needs to utilize that ability along with the boxing skills which he does have, if he wants to compete at the top level. IMO he should be going to Floyd Snr to tighten up that defense, and keep it tight because he is super hard to hit when he doesn't want to be, but he gets drawn into slugfests.
    I think this proves what most of us thought Berto is not elite i mean how more gimmes does this guy want??

    I think they wont throw him in there with a top Welterweight because they know he will not win, i think Clottley would of been a decent scrap and if Berto fought a clever fight could win but fighting Urango is a joke.

    I dont knwo why Berto gets away with an easy ride with this fight, people should be slating him to the high hills, imagine Cotto, Hatton fighters like that took a fight against Urango they would be geting abused from all angles.

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    Default Re: Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    What are people talking about? Urango is terrible, and a huge step down. He's similar to the guy Berto beat to get the belt. He doesn't need speed bumps right now, its time to see if he can fly or not. When he doesn't square up and throw haymakers he is amazing, but then he throws telegraphed punches that make him easy to counter, and he is wide open when he starts throw widely. There are times however where he is very tactical, he is one of the best athletes to ever grace boxing, but he needs to utilize that ability along with the boxing skills which he does have, if he wants to compete at the top level. IMO he should be going to Floyd Snr to tighten up that defense, and keep it tight because he is super hard to hit when he doesn't want to be, but he gets drawn into slugfests.
    I think this proves what most of us thought Berto is not elite i mean how more gimmes does this guy want??

    I think they wont throw him in there with a top Welterweight because they know he will not win, i think Clottley would of been a decent scrap and if Berto fought a clever fight could win but fighting Urango is a joke.

    I dont knwo why Berto gets away with an easy ride with this fight, people should be slating him to the high hills, imagine Cotto, Hatton fighters like that took a fight against Urango they would be geting abused from all angles.
    Hatton fought Urango

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    Default Re: Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    What are people talking about? Urango is terrible, and a huge step down. He's similar to the guy Berto beat to get the belt. He doesn't need speed bumps right now, its time to see if he can fly or not. When he doesn't square up and throw haymakers he is amazing, but then he throws telegraphed punches that make him easy to counter, and he is wide open when he starts throw widely. There are times however where he is very tactical, he is one of the best athletes to ever grace boxing, but he needs to utilize that ability along with the boxing skills which he does have, if he wants to compete at the top level. IMO he should be going to Floyd Snr to tighten up that defense, and keep it tight because he is super hard to hit when he doesn't want to be, but he gets drawn into slugfests.
    I think this proves what most of us thought Berto is not elite i mean how more gimmes does this guy want??

    I think they wont throw him in there with a top Welterweight because they know he will not win, i think Clottley would of been a decent scrap and if Berto fought a clever fight could win but fighting Urango is a joke.

    I dont knwo why Berto gets away with an easy ride with this fight, people should be slating him to the high hills, imagine Cotto, Hatton fighters like that took a fight against Urango they would be geting abused from all angles.
    What a crappy conclusion! The only thing lining up a fight proves, is availability and the ability to work out a deal.

    Cotto is has been trying to work out a deal with Clottey.
    Judah was trying to make a deal with M. Hatton
    Mosley is sitting out hoping for a Mega fight with the winner of Hatton/Pacquiao.

    What other possibilities does Berto have in your so called elite fighter category?

    Taking on Urango is best match up available for Berto, or perhaps you should call Berto for a job... Matching up fighters at the top of the weight class is tougher than you think!

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    Default Re: Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    What are people talking about? Urango is terrible, and a huge step down. He's similar to the guy Berto beat to get the belt. He doesn't need speed bumps right now, its time to see if he can fly or not. When he doesn't square up and throw haymakers he is amazing, but then he throws telegraphed punches that make him easy to counter, and he is wide open when he starts throw widely. There are times however where he is very tactical, he is one of the best athletes to ever grace boxing, but he needs to utilize that ability along with the boxing skills which he does have, if he wants to compete at the top level. IMO he should be going to Floyd Snr to tighten up that defense, and keep it tight because he is super hard to hit when he doesn't want to be, but he gets drawn into slugfests.
    I think this proves what most of us thought Berto is not elite i mean how more gimmes does this guy want??

    I think they wont throw him in there with a top Welterweight because they know he will not win, i think Clottley would of been a decent scrap and if Berto fought a clever fight could win but fighting Urango is a joke.

    I dont knwo why Berto gets away with an easy ride with this fight, people should be slating him to the high hills, imagine Cotto, Hatton fighters like that took a fight against Urango they would be geting abused from all angles.
    What a crappy conclusion! The only thing lining up a fight proves, is availability and the ability to work out a deal.

    Cotto is has been trying to work out a deal with Clottey.
    Judah was trying to make a deal with M. Hatton
    Mosley is sitting out hoping for a Mega fight with the winner of Hatton/Pacquiao.

    What other possibilities does Berto have in your so called elite fighter category?

    Taking on Urango is best match up available for Berto, or perhaps you should call Berto for a job... Matching up fighters at the top of the weight class is tougher than you think!
    it's better than fighting some dude called Mickey Rodriguez

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    Default Re: Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    What are people talking about? Urango is terrible, and a huge step down. He's similar to the guy Berto beat to get the belt. He doesn't need speed bumps right now, its time to see if he can fly or not. When he doesn't square up and throw haymakers he is amazing, but then he throws telegraphed punches that make him easy to counter, and he is wide open when he starts throw widely. There are times however where he is very tactical, he is one of the best athletes to ever grace boxing, but he needs to utilize that ability along with the boxing skills which he does have, if he wants to compete at the top level. IMO he should be going to Floyd Snr to tighten up that defense, and keep it tight because he is super hard to hit when he doesn't want to be, but he gets drawn into slugfests.
    I think this proves what most of us thought Berto is not elite i mean how more gimmes does this guy want??

    I think they wont throw him in there with a top Welterweight because they know he will not win, i think Clottley would of been a decent scrap and if Berto fought a clever fight could win but fighting Urango is a joke.

    I dont knwo why Berto gets away with an easy ride with this fight, people should be slating him to the high hills, imagine Cotto, Hatton fighters like that took a fight against Urango they would be geting abused from all angles.
    What a crappy conclusion! The only thing lining up a fight proves, is availability and the ability to work out a deal.

    Cotto is has been trying to work out a deal with Clottey.
    Judah was trying to make a deal with M. Hatton
    Mosley is sitting out hoping for a Mega fight with the winner of Hatton/Pacquiao.

    What other possibilities does Berto have in your so called elite fighter category?

    Taking on Urango is best match up available for Berto, or perhaps you should call Berto for a job... Matching up fighters at the top of the weight class is tougher than you think!

    Please are you serious?? Urango is ranked number 5 in the division under 147, hahaha!!

    So you feel there was no one else. Please!! Shocking match making imo.

    Kel i know Hatton has fought Urango it was just an example of a top fighter who would of got slated if he got matched against a limited fighter moving up in weight.

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    Default Re: Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post

    I think this proves what most of us thought Berto is not elite i mean how more gimmes does this guy want??

    I think they wont throw him in there with a top Welterweight because they know he will not win, i think Clottley would of been a decent scrap and if Berto fought a clever fight could win but fighting Urango is a joke.

    I dont knwo why Berto gets away with an easy ride with this fight, people should be slating him to the high hills, imagine Cotto, Hatton fighters like that took a fight against Urango they would be geting abused from all angles.
    What a crappy conclusion! The only thing lining up a fight proves, is availability and the ability to work out a deal.

    Cotto is has been trying to work out a deal with Clottey.
    Judah was trying to make a deal with M. Hatton
    Mosley is sitting out hoping for a Mega fight with the winner of Hatton/Pacquiao.

    What other possibilities does Berto have in your so called elite fighter category?

    Taking on Urango is best match up available for Berto, or perhaps you should call Berto for a job... Matching up fighters at the top of the weight class is tougher than you think!

    Please are you serious?? Urango is ranked number 5 in the division under 147, hahaha!!

    So you feel there was no one else. Please!! Shocking match making imo.

    Kel i know Hatton has fought Urango it was just an example of a top fighter who would of got slated if he got matched against a limited fighter moving up in weight.
    Berto's only #7 at welter! I think this is a good match-up! If you saw Berto struggle with Collazo why would you want to throw him to the wolves straight away? He needs more seasoning! I agree a Collazo rematch would have been nice but this is still a solid fight imo
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    Default Re: Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post

    I think this proves what most of us thought Berto is not elite i mean how more gimmes does this guy want??

    I think they wont throw him in there with a top Welterweight because they know he will not win, i think Clottley would of been a decent scrap and if Berto fought a clever fight could win but fighting Urango is a joke.

    I dont knwo why Berto gets away with an easy ride with this fight, people should be slating him to the high hills, imagine Cotto, Hatton fighters like that took a fight against Urango they would be geting abused from all angles.
    What a crappy conclusion! The only thing lining up a fight proves, is availability and the ability to work out a deal.

    Cotto is has been trying to work out a deal with Clottey.
    Judah was trying to make a deal with M. Hatton
    Mosley is sitting out hoping for a Mega fight with the winner of Hatton/Pacquiao.

    What other possibilities does Berto have in your so called elite fighter category?

    Taking on Urango is best match up available for Berto, or perhaps you should call Berto for a job... Matching up fighters at the top of the weight class is tougher than you think!

    Please are you serious?? Urango is ranked number 5 in the division under 147, hahaha!!

    So you feel there was no one else. Please!! Shocking match making imo.

    Kel i know Hatton has fought Urango it was just an example of a top fighter who would of got slated if he got matched against a limited fighter moving up in weight.
    Fak king Supa! back up your opinion genius! List the "available" match ups for Berto! Lets us see who's available and out there that make a better fight.
    Last edited by fan johnny; 03-31-2009 at 02:16 PM.

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    Default Re: Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

    Regarding Berto, did you know that Vanes Martirosyan beat him in the amateurs to secure a spot on the 2004 Olympic team?

    In terms of this post, I agree that a rematch with Collazo was due, and that fighting a champion 140 junior welterweight is not necessarily the best match, but if Mosley wouldn't fight him and Cotto and Clottey are fighting eachother, who do you suggest he should fight?
    Last edited by Rantcatrat; 03-31-2009 at 02:00 PM.

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    Default Re: Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Regarding Berto, did you know that Vanes Martirosyan beat him in the amateurs to secure a spot on the 2004 Olympic team?

    In terms of this post, I agree that a rematch with Collazo was due, and that fighting a champion 140 junior welterweight is not necessarily the best match, but if Mosley wouldn't fight him and Cotto and Clottey are fighting eachother, who do you suggest he should fight?
    Uh no he didn't Berto had the spot on the US national team and beat everyone, but he was disqualified in one of his fights and that eventually led to him being forced to compete for Haiti. He was actually considered the best fighter on the United States team before he was forced off of it.

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    Default Re: Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

    I don't mind watching this fight. I don't think Berto is up for anyone bigger than Urango at the moment. I do however hope this is a good scrap. Berto will eventually have to step it up a bit but I don't see Berto beating any of the top Welters except maybe Tonya 'Hands of Plaster' Margarita.

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    Default Re: Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

    Well, Urango was pretty gigantic for a 140 pounder so he should be fairly strong still at 147, unfortunately he's just not that great. He could have his moments though.

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    Default Re: Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

    This is a very good match-up and a decent voluntary defense. Abit surprised its taken this long for Urango to move up in weight as he looks huge at Jnr Welterweight.

    Another good learning fight for Berto against a creditable contender. Berto has superb skills and I'd expect him to beat Urango but it is still a dangerous fight as Urango can bang.

    Berto is about 25 years old so relatively young for a World champion and his management are doing a great job. He's not in his prime and not ready for the Elite but if he keeps progressing then I think he can be a major star in the sport.

    People like Cotto, Mosley etc have bigger fish to fry and bigger money fights so Berto is unlikely to fight any of them soon. All he can do is keep defending his belt.

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    Default Re: Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

    Quote Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob View Post
    This is a very good match-up and a decent voluntary defense. Abit surprised its taken this long for Urango to move up in weight as he looks huge at Jnr Welterweight.

    Another good learning fight for Berto against a creditable contender. Berto has superb skills and I'd expect him to beat Urango but it is still a dangerous fight as Urango can bang.

    Berto is about 25 years old so relatively young for a World champion and his management are doing a great job. He's not in his prime and not ready for the Elite but if he keeps progressing then I think he can be a major star in the sport.

    People like Cotto, Mosley etc have bigger fish to fry and bigger money fights so Berto is unlikely to fight any of them soon. All he can do is keep defending his belt.


    spot on welsh

    Urango will make the switch to 147 easy as he is a huge light welterweight thats packed with solid muscle and can definitely throw a punch.

    Berto`s style is very similar and i would be stunned if this one went the 12rounds.
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