Andre Berto is fighting Juan Urango May 30th?

[fan johnny]

What are people talking about? Urango is terrible, and a huge step down. He's similar to the guy Berto beat to get the belt. He doesn't need speed bumps right now, its time to see if he can fly or not. When he doesn't square up and throw haymakers he is amazing, but then he throws telegraphed punches that make him easy to counter, and he is wide open when he starts throw widely. There are times however where he is very tactical, he is one of the best athletes to ever grace boxing, but he needs to utilize that ability along with the boxing skills which he does have, if he wants to compete at the top level. IMO he should be going to Floyd Snr to tighten up that defense, and keep it tight because he is super hard to hit when he doesn't want to be, but he gets drawn into slugfests.

I think this proves what most of us thought Berto is not elite i mean how more gimmes does this guy want??

I think they wont throw him in there with a top Welterweight because they know he will not win, i think Clottley would of been a decent scrap and if Berto fought a clever fight could win but fighting Urango is a joke.

I dont knwo why Berto gets away with an easy ride with this fight, people should be slating him to the high hills, imagine Cotto, Hatton fighters like that took a fight against Urango they would be geting abused from all angles.

What a crappy conclusion! The only thing lining up a fight proves, is availability and the ability to work out a deal.

Cotto is has been trying to work out a deal with Clottey.
Judah was trying to make a deal with M. Hatton
Mosley is sitting out hoping for a Mega fight with the winner of Hatton/Pacquiao.

What other possibilities does Berto have in your so called elite fighter category?

Taking on Urango is best match up available for Berto, or perhaps you should call Berto for a job... Matching up fighters at the top of the weight class is tougher than you think!

[ElTerribleMorales]

What are people talking about? Urango is terrible, and a huge step down. He's similar to the guy Berto beat to get the belt. He doesn't need speed bumps right now, its time to see if he can fly or not. When he doesn't square up and throw haymakers he is amazing, but then he throws telegraphed punches that make him easy to counter, and he is wide open when he starts throw widely. There are times however where he is very tactical, he is one of the best athletes to ever grace boxing, but he needs to utilize that ability along with the boxing skills which he does have, if he wants to compete at the top level. IMO he should be going to Floyd Snr to tighten up that defense, and keep it tight because he is super hard to hit when he doesn't want to be, but he gets drawn into slugfests.

I think this proves what most of us thought Berto is not elite i mean how more gimmes does this guy want??

I think they wont throw him in there with a top Welterweight because they know he will not win, i think Clottley would of been a decent scrap and if Berto fought a clever fight could win but fighting Urango is a joke.

I dont knwo why Berto gets away with an easy ride with this fight, people should be slating him to the high hills, imagine Cotto, Hatton fighters like that took a fight against Urango they would be geting abused from all angles.

What a crappy conclusion! The only thing lining up a fight proves, is availability and the ability to work out a deal.

Cotto is has been trying to work out a deal with Clottey.
Judah was trying to make a deal with M. Hatton
Mosley is sitting out hoping for a Mega fight with the winner of Hatton/Pacquiao.

What other possibilities does Berto have in your so called elite fighter category?

Taking on Urango is best match up available for Berto, or perhaps you should call Berto for a job... Matching up fighters at the top of the weight class is tougher than you think!

it's better than fighting some dude called Mickey Rodriguez

[skel1983]

What are people talking about? Urango is terrible, and a huge step down. He's similar to the guy Berto beat to get the belt. He doesn't need speed bumps right now, its time to see if he can fly or not. When he doesn't square up and throw haymakers he is amazing, but then he throws telegraphed punches that make him easy to counter, and he is wide open when he starts throw widely. There are times however where he is very tactical, he is one of the best athletes to ever grace boxing, but he needs to utilize that ability along with the boxing skills which he does have, if he wants to compete at the top level. IMO he should be going to Floyd Snr to tighten up that defense, and keep it tight because he is super hard to hit when he doesn't want to be, but he gets drawn into slugfests.

I think this proves what most of us thought Berto is not elite i mean how more gimmes does this guy want??

I think they wont throw him in there with a top Welterweight because they know he will not win, i think Clottley would of been a decent scrap and if Berto fought a clever fight could win but fighting Urango is a joke.

I dont knwo why Berto gets away with an easy ride with this fight, people should be slating him to the high hills, imagine Cotto, Hatton fighters like that took a fight against Urango they would be geting abused from all angles.

What a crappy conclusion! The only thing lining up a fight proves, is availability and the ability to work out a deal.

Cotto is has been trying to work out a deal with Clottey.
Judah was trying to make a deal with M. Hatton
Mosley is sitting out hoping for a Mega fight with the winner of Hatton/Pacquiao.

What other possibilities does Berto have in your so called elite fighter category?

Taking on Urango is best match up available for Berto, or perhaps you should call Berto for a job... Matching up fighters at the top of the weight class is tougher than you think!

Please are you serious?? Urango is ranked number 5 in the division under 147, hahaha!!

So you feel there was no one else. Please!! Shocking match making imo.

Kel i know Hatton has fought Urango it was just an example of a top fighter who would of got slated if he got matched against a limited fighter moving up in weight.

[Galaxy]

I think this proves what most of us thought Berto is not elite i mean how more gimmes does this guy want??

I think they wont throw him in there with a top Welterweight because they know he will not win, i think Clottley would of been a decent scrap and if Berto fought a clever fight could win but fighting Urango is a joke.

I dont knwo why Berto gets away with an easy ride with this fight, people should be slating him to the high hills, imagine Cotto, Hatton fighters like that took a fight against Urango they would be geting abused from all angles.

What a crappy conclusion! The only thing lining up a fight proves, is availability and the ability to work out a deal.

Cotto is has been trying to work out a deal with Clottey.
Judah was trying to make a deal with M. Hatton
Mosley is sitting out hoping for a Mega fight with the winner of Hatton/Pacquiao.

What other possibilities does Berto have in your so called elite fighter category?

Taking on Urango is best match up available for Berto, or perhaps you should call Berto for a job... Matching up fighters at the top of the weight class is tougher than you think!

Please are you serious?? Urango is ranked number 5 in the division under 147, hahaha!!

So you feel there was no one else. Please!! Shocking match making imo.

Kel i know Hatton has fought Urango it was just an example of a top fighter who would of got slated if he got matched against a limited fighter moving up in weight.

Berto's only #7 at welter! I think this is a good match-up! If you saw Berto struggle with Collazo why would you want to throw him to the wolves straight away? He needs more seasoning! I agree a Collazo rematch would have been nice but this is still a solid fight imo

[fan johnny]

I think this proves what most of us thought Berto is not elite i mean how more gimmes does this guy want??

I think they wont throw him in there with a top Welterweight because they know he will not win, i think Clottley would of been a decent scrap and if Berto fought a clever fight could win but fighting Urango is a joke.

I dont knwo why Berto gets away with an easy ride with this fight, people should be slating him to the high hills, imagine Cotto, Hatton fighters like that took a fight against Urango they would be geting abused from all angles.

What a crappy conclusion! The only thing lining up a fight proves, is availability and the ability to work out a deal.

Cotto is has been trying to work out a deal with Clottey.
Judah was trying to make a deal with M. Hatton
Mosley is sitting out hoping for a Mega fight with the winner of Hatton/Pacquiao.

What other possibilities does Berto have in your so called elite fighter category?

Taking on Urango is best match up available for Berto, or perhaps you should call Berto for a job... Matching up fighters at the top of the weight class is tougher than you think!

Please are you serious?? Urango is ranked number 5 in the division under 147, hahaha!!

So you feel there was no one else. Please!! Shocking match making imo.

Kel i know Hatton has fought Urango it was just an example of a top fighter who would of got slated if he got matched against a limited fighter moving up in weight.

Fak king Supa! back up your opinion genius! List the "available" match ups for Berto! Lets us see who's available and out there that make a better fight.

[Rantcatrat]

Regarding Berto, did you know that Vanes Martirosyan beat him in the amateurs to secure a spot on the 2004 Olympic team?

In terms of this post, I agree that a rematch with Collazo was due, and that fighting a champion 140 junior welterweight is not necessarily the best match, but if Mosley wouldn't fight him and Cotto and Clottey are fighting eachother, who do you suggest he should fight?

[Taeth]

Regarding Berto, did you know that Vanes Martirosyan beat him in the amateurs to secure a spot on the 2004 Olympic team?

In terms of this post, I agree that a rematch with Collazo was due, and that fighting a champion 140 junior welterweight is not necessarily the best match, but if Mosley wouldn't fight him and Cotto and Clottey are fighting eachother, who do you suggest he should fight?

Uh no he didn't Berto had the spot on the US national team and beat everyone, but he was disqualified in one of his fights and that eventually led to him being forced to compete for Haiti. He was actually considered the best fighter on the United States team before he was forced off of it.

[Rantcatrat]

Regarding Berto, did you know that Vanes Martirosyan beat him in the amateurs to secure a spot on the 2004 Olympic team?

In terms of this post, I agree that a rematch with Collazo was due, and that fighting a champion 140 junior welterweight is not necessarily the best match, but if Mosley wouldn't fight him and Cotto and Clottey are fighting eachother, who do you suggest he should fight?

Uh no he didn't Berto had the spot on the US national team and beat everyone, but he was disqualified in one of his fights and that eventually led to him being forced to compete for Haiti. He was actually considered the best fighter on the United States team before he was forced off of it.

There is no real way to know, but please see the below links for why I thought that Vanes beat Andre in the amateurs:
Meet The US Olympians - Vanes Martirosyan

HBO: Boxing: JERMAIN TAYLOR VS. KASSIM OUMA: BERTO UNVEILED

Top Rank Boxing

Boxing - Derek Bonnett - Vanes Martirosyan: 2009 and Beyond

As you'll read, Vanes also beat Timothy Bradley in the amateurs.

[Taeth]

Berto had the spot on the team before he was disqualified. Because of his speed and boxing ability people thought he was the best prospect in the 2004 team going into the Olympics. Andre Ward wasn't expected to do as well as he did, and Berto fought a guy who was 6'3 in the olympics and once the guy got ahead he just stayed away.

[Rantcatrat]

Berto had the spot on the team before he was disqualified. Because of his speed and boxing ability people thought he was the best prospect in the 2004 team going into the Olympics. Andre Ward wasn't expected to do as well as he did, and Berto fought a guy who was 6'3 in the olympics and once the guy got ahead he just stayed away.

Berto was one of the best prospects in 2004 and was supposed to be on the team. The DQ was questionable at best, but still from what i gather he lost to Vanes in one of the matches leading up to the games. Vanes is 6'0. Not 6'3. However, he fights at Jr. Middle now and Berto fights at welter.

[SigmaMu]

I don't mind watching this fight. I don't think Berto is up for anyone bigger than Urango at the moment. I do however hope this is a good scrap. Berto will eventually have to step it up a bit but I don't see Berto beating any of the top Welters except maybe Tonya 'Hands of Plaster' Margarita.

[OumaFan]

Well, Urango was pretty gigantic for a 140 pounder so he should be fairly strong still at 147, unfortunately he's just not that great. He could have his moments though.

[SigmaMu]

Well, Urango was pretty gigantic for a 140 pounder so he should be fairly strong still at 147, unfortunately he's just not that great. He could have his moments though.

Oh SNAP! I did not even notice that you were a FORUM MOD When did your get you SADDO Middle Weight MOD Forum title?

[OumaFan]

A few months ago I guess. Seems like it was around Christmas, Saddo needed some new mods and made me, BoxingGorrila, Fenster and Smashup mods.

[Killa From Manila]

Pretty even fight imo. Urango got enough fire power to bring down Berto.