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    Default Re: this cannot be true Roach to train Margarito

    I'm inclined to believe Roach, I don't think he would put his reputation on the line like that no matter how much money was on offer. He seems to be a guy concerned about his place in history (maybe related to his Parkinson's) and I don't think he would risk tarnishing it if he didn't truly believe Margarito. Let's remember Nazim Richardson and Mosley both also said they didn't believe Margarito knew. I still haven't taken a definitive stand on this issue, but I'm inclined to believe Margarito, based on what Nazim & Shane have said, and just my gut instinct.

    Also Roach says he was very aware of how his hands are wrapped, but that not everyone is like that. I can definitely feel the difference between how I wrap my hands and how my trainer does it, but I know two of the other guys at my gym, can't tell the difference no matter how they are wrapped or even if there is some gauze in there. Everyone is different in terms of noticing things. Some people will probably focus more on something mentally when their hands are being wrapped and will notice the slightest difference, and some might have their head somewhere else and not notice at all, which I suspect may be Margarito, as IMO he is a thick bastard

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    Default Re: this cannot be true Roach to train Margarito

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    I'm inclined to believe Roach, I don't think he would put his reputation on the line like that no matter how much money was on offer. He seems to be a guy concerned about his place in history (maybe related to his Parkinson's) and I don't think he would risk tarnishing it if he didn't truly believe Margarito. Let's remember Nazim Richardson and Mosley both also said they didn't believe Margarito knew. I still haven't taken a definitive stand on this issue, but I'm inclined to believe Margarito, based on what Nazim & Shane have said, and just my gut instinct.

    Also Roach says he was very aware of how his hands are wrapped, but that not everyone is like that. I can definitely feel the difference between how I wrap my hands and how my trainer does it, but I know two of the other guys at my gym, can't tell the difference no matter how they are wrapped or even if there is some gauze in there. Everyone is different in terms of noticing things. Some people will probably focus more on something mentally when their hands are being wrapped and will notice the slightest difference, and some might have their head somewhere else and not notice at all, which I suspect may be Margarito, as IMO he is a thick bastard



    Yeah but it doesn't really matter what Roach believes; and all he'll be remembered for being involved with Margarito is that he trained a guy that was at the tail end of a questionable career and who is probably going to go down as a hated fighter when it's all said and done imo. I think Roachs' Parkinson's has taken a pit bull grip on his mind and he can't tell left from right

    With that said I don't think it will necessarily tarnish Roach and his legacy, people will probably just pity the tard' and blame his decision on his worsening medical condition.

    And c'mon guys; we know Margarito knew he had ACME brick powder in his gloves...if he didn't he really is a tool Either way he is guilty; whether because he knew and did nothing about it or because he's so stupid he should be punished just for lack of awareness That's like saying it's not the fault of a little kid in a candy store who's friends stuff his pockets with goodies while he is reading a magazine and he walks out without knowing his pockets are full of stolen goods.......honkey please

    Personally I hope Bob Arum and Roach get legally married and then adopt Margarito; that would be soooooo cute
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    Default Re: this cannot be true Roach to train Margarito

    eh.. it's still a business, and Roach is still a boxing trainer.. Margarito, regardless of his recent shameful activities, is still a good fighter.. It would be like an NFL team signing Michael Vick to play on their team..

    Is it wrong for a lawyer to defent a murderer? Nah, it's their job.. something they get paid for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RP33 View Post
    eh.. it's still a business, and Roach is still a boxing trainer.. Margarito, regardless of his recent shameful activities, is still a good fighter.. It would be like an NFL team signing Michael Vick to play on their team..

    Is it wrong for a lawyer to defent a murderer? Nah, it's their job.. something they get paid for.
    Yup that is what I was thinking, this is a business and Roach is a good opportunist, I don't trust Roach though, just look at what he did to Manfredo Jr but from a business stand point, I can see where Roach is coming from and he always seems to crawl from under the wood work just in time, I guess that is why he is the Roach

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    Default Re: this cannot be true Roach to train Margarito

    Quote Originally Posted by RP33 View Post
    eh.. it's still a business, and Roach is still a boxing trainer.. Margarito, regardless of his recent shameful activities, is still a good fighter.. It would be like an NFL team signing Michael Vick to play on their team..

    Is it wrong for a lawyer to defent a murderer? Nah, it's their job.. something they get paid for.



    Agreed dude.....I personally don't care if he trains Tonya Margarito, more power to him. But like you said it is a business and you gotta wonder if it's even in his best interest to train the guy: will boxing really want him back? And what is Roach going to do with the guy? He is not going to become some slick boxer all of a sudden and that granite chin he relies on so much got tested by Cotto and ruined by Mosley. Just dumb imo to train him but hey dumb people make the world go round.
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    I think I'm rambling again I hate it when I am trying to wake up and attempt to put coherent thoughts into a sentence. I'm going back to bed
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    Default Re: this cannot be true Roach to train Margarito

    This is not good for Roach or Team Pac. I just lost my respect for Freddie.

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    Default Re: this cannot be true Roach to train Margarito

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky Balboa View Post
    This is not good for Roach or Team Pac. I just lost my respect for Freddie.
    This is not good for Team Pac??! Wow come on Freddie, train Margarito now! Don't waste a day!

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