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Urkal and Jennings spring to mind.
I think Urango is a decent test, he's coming off a few highlight reel KO wins. Not sure what he's done at 147 to get a shot but he's a former 140 champ and imo is passable after such a hard fight against Collazo.
I'd like to see him fight Mosley or Cotto though, but i guess that won't happen until Berto gets another name on his record....and yeah you're right i suppose, Urango won't do in that sense. So long as he follows it up with a live 147er like Clottey then he'll get his shot at the big time....providing he wins.
I don't see a problem with this fight at all its not as if Berto is the Ring champ in this division right now he's merely a belt holder.
Urango has never been stopped so will doubtless be a test for Berto especially in the late rounds and there's no rush to stick him in with a top fighter becuase on the basis of what we've seen in recent months he's not ready.
I don't think the likes of Mosely, Cotto, Williams etc struggle with Collazo and Cosme Riveria the way Berto did, let him get some more experience before he fights them.
Urango at least holds a belt even if it is one that Malignaggi gave away.
Regarding Berto, did you know that Vanes Martirosyan beat him in the amateurs to secure a spot on the 2004 Olympic team?
In terms of this post, I agree that a rematch with Collazo was due, and that fighting a champion 140 junior welterweight is not necessarily the best match, but if Mosley wouldn't fight him and Cotto and Clottey are fighting eachother, who do you suggest he should fight?
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I don't mind watching this fight. I don't think Berto is up for anyone bigger than Urango at the moment. I do however hope this is a good scrap. Berto will eventually have to step it up a bit but I don't see Berto beating any of the top Welters except maybe Tonya 'Hands of Plaster' Margarita.
Well, Urango was pretty gigantic for a 140 pounder so he should be fairly strong still at 147, unfortunately he's just not that great. He could have his moments though.
A few months ago I guess. Seems like it was around Christmas, Saddo needed some new mods and made me, BoxingGorrila, Fenster and Smashup mods.
Pretty even fight imo. Urango got enough fire power to bring down Berto.
Riveria floored him legitimately and took him 10 rounds. For a supposed future world class star thats piss poor imo. Judah blasted him out inside 3 rounds and Angulo just manhandled him and forced him to quit in 5.
If Berto is truly world class he shouldn't be going 10 rounds with the likes of Riveria and he certainly shouldn't be getting floored by them.
I think Urango is a good test for Berto right now. Apart from Collazo he's never fought anyone better.
I'm not sold on Berto's tougness really, I think Urango will ask a few questions of him. I expect Berto to win but I reckon he'll be taken another 12 hard rounds and will have a few ropey moments whereas Mosely, Williams, Mayweather, Cotto etc wouldn't have any problems
Uh no he didn't Berto had the spot on the US national team and beat everyone, but he was disqualified in one of his fights and that eventually led to him being forced to compete for Haiti. He was actually considered the best fighter on the United States team before he was forced off of it.
Um you do know that Rivera had 2 weeks noticed for the Angulo fight and came in 17 pounds lighter than him?
Also you want to talk about Zab Judah, I dare his promoter to try and put him in with Berto, he would get destroyed.
Forbes is really tough, nobody has even dropped him, David Estrada is super tough and it took Cintron only one less round to stop him.
Not trying to compare the two, but do you think ALi should have been floored by Henry Cooper?
Didn't Felix Trinidad go down? Didn't Demarcus Corley affected Mayweather, and almost knock out Cotto?
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