Capitalism

[CFH]

I'm telling you fuckers, democratic Socialism. Get on board or get sent to one of our "re-education" camps.

[Kirkland Laing]

I'm telling you fuckers, democratic Socialism. Get on board or get sent to one of our "re-education" camps.

[CFH]

I'm telling you fuckers, democratic Socialism. Get on board or get sent to one of our "re-education" camps.

I find that horribly offensive . I can only truly express my feelings in the form of emoticons.



I'm not a Marxist/Leninist socialist though, just for the record, I'm not really a socialist at all. I'm more of a social Democrat with ideas based loosely on the European welfare state model.

[pacfan]

[quote=Kirkland Laing;625372]

infallible

It's Infallible.

I stand corrected, sir. Infallible with a big, capital I.

[TheChosenOne]

i always thought mr. burns from the simpsons would make a good presedent.

[El Kabong]

i always thought mr. burns from the simpsons would make a good presedent.

oddly enough....I agree

[Kirkland Laing]

[quote=pacfan;626123]

It's Infallible.

I stand corrected, sir. Infallible with a big, capital I.

God bless you.

To follow on from what I Wrote yesterday about the media being biased, during the runup to the 2003 Iraq invasion the opinion polls showed 40something % at best supported invading Iraq. I think they cracked 50% a couple of times only, after Americans had been told "we know where the WMDs are" and "we know he's going to use them against us." But basically the majority right up to the start of the war were against the invasion and very sceptical. Phil Donohue had the top-rated MSNBC programme at the time, which meant he had an audience of less than half of 1% of the US population. And for expressing an opinion shared by the majority of the population he got taken off the air and has never worked since.

Good news from the credit markets during the week. The KLGFSRP looks like it's finally taking effect. Still a long way to go though and it'll get worse before it gets better. And we've still got a serious recession to deal with. Still, happy days.

[X]

Statistically, all communists appreciate this joke equally.

[Tilt A Whirl]

i always thought mr. burns from the simpsons would make a good presedent.

oddly enough....I agree

He was President for 8 years,its called Dick Cheney

[El Kabong]

i always thought mr. burns from the simpsons would make a good presedent.

oddly enough....I agree

He was President for 8 years,its called Dick Cheney

And what has Obama done for you lately?

[killersheep]

oddly enough....I agree

He was President for 8 years,its called Dick Cheney

And what has Obama done for you lately?

Met with the G-20 to work on a global solution to a global problem.
Met with the Russian and Chinese presidents to try to come up with a
global solution to curb the current crisis as well as, trying to keep them
involved in cracking down on nuclear arms supplies going to North Korea
and Iran. With Chinese president Hu, he made agreements that neither
side would go into a state of protectionism. Furthermore, he set up
meetings with King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, President Bak of South Korea
and Prime Minister Singh of India.

[CFH]

He was President for 8 years,its called Dick Cheney

And what has Obama done for you lately?

Met with the G-20 to work on a global solution to a global problem.
Met with the Russian and Chinese presidents to try to come up with a
global solution to curb the current crisis as well as, trying to keep them
involved in cracking down on nuclear arms supplies going to North Korea
and Iran. With Chinese president Hu, he made agreements that neither
side would go into a state of protectionism. Furthermore, he set up
meetings with King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, President Bak of South Korea
and Prime Minister Singh of India.

Yeah, but who has he invaded?

[El Kabong]

Obama has taken advantage of a bad economy to try and make the situation worse. He's going to raise taxes, he's already doubled our national debt, and he's not even done with his first year...he has promised to weaken our military, he's promised to close GITMO...where those prisoners go I am not sure, and he has promised to end the war in Iraq and his Secretary of State has "Extended an olive branch" to the Taliban who replied "We're going to hit DC soon".

It was understandable to want to change SOME of the policies of George W. Bush as he was inexperienced when he took office but to follow him with somebody who has even less experience was a bad idea. John McCain had experience, he was more of a moderate conservative, he was a big enough SOB to where he would veto any bill with pork barrell spending.


But there's little we can do now but "Hope for change" and in 4 years we just might get it. I can bet you the GOP will be taking over Congress pretty soon.

[Youngblood]

It must eat at Lyle's very core Obama is as popular as he is. The general world wide consensus is the man can be trusted. It's refreshing to them. Something that is very much needed in world negotiations right now, not a 'do it our way or the highway' which stood to and successfully did alienate the USA.

Yea, he has a lot of work to do, the USA does, and so do many countries and their leaders. But considering you guys just finished with a leader would couldn't even routinely be honest with his own people, it is no stretch to see how that attitude found it's way to the world stage.

4 years from now? No idea where things will be, no one really knows, but it couldn't be much worse then where things are currently under 8 years of Bush. No matter how much you try to sling that heap of poor decisions onto the Obama administration and call it theirs, as a person from another country...I assure you, we know the difference.

6 days to go! Gotdammit. Can't believe I am in a political thread.

[El Kabong]

Youngblood go ahead and think of Obama as a saint and set yourself up for future disappointment, it's not my responsibility to try and bring you back down to Earth when you are sinking all your faith into one guy to do what is good and right for not only the US but for the World.

Sure Obama is popular, sure everyone around the world loves him (for now) but there will come a day when Barry will have to make choices that will hurt his image and that may alienate the very people who elected him and that day will come, be it in 4 years or 8 years or tomorrow. Barrack will have to decide between what's good for the US and what is good for someone else, he can't sit on the fence forever and he can't keep his name or face off of these big decisions.

People right now like Obama because he talks alot about "hope" and "change" and "fairness" and what that means to the people is that the government has understood the error of their ways and we promise YOU individually that you will start doing better AND we're also going to punish the people who may have had it better than you before Obama got elected. Well you know what amigo, any time I told any authority figure that something "Wasn't fair" the reply always came back "LIFE ISN'T FAIR" and that is what the whole world will realise when the time comes...Obama likes for people to think that the United States is just another country and we're no better than anyone else is and that we're "partners" and "not a patron" but that isn't the truth.

America was built by special people to be a special country, not to be average.