My prediction for Haye/Klitschko bout

[El Kabong]

OK Haye can go about this a couple of ways...

#1 Haye can try and pounce on Wlad early in which case he may KO Wladimir OR tucker himself out and just get battered for as long as Wlad wants to keep him around.

#2 Haye can try and box with Wladimir and just eat jabs until either Wladimir tires out and Haye KO's him or Wladimir just hammers Haye and David never even wins a round.

#3 Haye is indecisive on whether he should attack or lay back and in that case there is either a clash of heads, Wlad is caught off guard and KO'd, or Haye is just obliterated by Wladimir's power as Haye's chin has NEVER been tested by a heavyweight of note.

I think with Manny Steward in his corner and his psyche in very good shape I see Wladimir being cautious of Haye's power meanwhile landing meaningful and PAINFUL punches which will wear Haye down and stop him in 5-7 rounds.

I have been equal in my view, as equal as I can be...I have listed the ways in which either fighter can win or lose the match. I support Wladimir, I think he's too big, too skilled, and too experienced to be beaten by David Haye....I have been wrong before but this fight IMO is the begining of the end of David Haye

[TheDemolitionDan]

LMAO That was funny great job!

[Bx730NY]

Here's the part everyone seems to forget. The reason wladdys jab seems so effective is because if anyone tries to counter him or even attack first, he's just gonna hold them to death. He knew he probably wouldn't get away with it in England so he forced the fight to one of his home turfs where he can do as he likes.

Hopefully Haye can overcome that with speed and knock his scared ass out.

Hilarious stuff though Danny

[ElTerribleMorales]

Here's the part everyone seems to forget. The reason wladdys jab seems so effective is because if anyone tries to counter him or even attack first, he's just gonna hold them to death. He knew he probably wouldn't get away with it in England so he forced the fight to one of his home turfs where he can do as he likes.

Hopefully Haye can overcome that with speed and knock his scared ass out.

Hilarious stuff though Danny

scared? he's taken on bigger threats than David Haye, and if you're gonna talk about huggers hell he's no Ruiz, and hugging isn't banned in England look at every other Hatton fight

David Haye isn't even the best Cruiserweight out there much less the best Heavy, he's not gonna be the best name on Wlad's record at all

some of Wlad's wins

Monte Barret (23-1) TKO 7
Chris Byrd (31-1) UD 12
Francois Botha (44-3-1) TKO 8
Ray Mercer (30-4-1) TKO 6
Jameel McCline (28-2-3) TKO 10
DaVarryl Williamson (20-2) TD 5
Samuel Peter (24-0) UD 12
Chris Byrd (39-2-1) TKO 7
Calvin Brock (29-0) TKO 7
Lamon Brewster (33-3) RTD 6
Sultan Imbragimov (22-0-1) UD 12
Tony Thompson (31-1) KO 11
Hasim Rahman (45-6-2) TKO 7

on that list are 5 former HW champions, and 3 have fought for a title on various occasions, so honestly don't think that KO'ing a former Cruiserweight champ is gonna be the bigges W on his record

[El Kabong]

Here's the part everyone seems to forget. The reason wladdys jab seems so effective is because if anyone tries to counter him or even attack first, he's just gonna hold them to death. He knew he probably wouldn't get away with it in England so he forced the fight to one of his home turfs where he can do as he likes.

Hopefully Haye can overcome that with speed and knock his scared ass out.

Hilarious stuff though Danny

Didn't Ali hold? Didn't Lennox Lewis hold? Didn't MIKE TYSON hold? So shut the fuck up about Wlad holding, he has done nothing that the people who ran the division before him haven't done. I'm not comparing Wladimir's achievements to those of the aforementioned Greats but if you take a look back through the history of the division ALL of the greats bent the rules in their favor and The Klitschko's are not different. Wlad is a smart fighter, Ali was a smart fighter, Lennox Lewis was a smart fighter, etc. you use the clinch to stay out of range and keep from getting hit and also use your size advantage to tire out your opponent...it's just common damn sense that heavyweights are going to do that.

It's not ONLY punching power that gets you KO's...Wladimir knows how to weaken his opponents before he breaks them....and David Haye will find this out the hard way

[boozeboxer]

Is the straw being in a litter box of any significance?

[SigmaMu]

Is the straw being in a litter box of any significance?

I guess you are just slow.

Diva Haye
Last name Haye as in Hay is for horses.

They put hay in scarescrows.

Diva Haye gets the hay knocked out of him and that is what is left of the Diva after phuking with the giant Klit. and that is not a litter box it's a spitter box.

[Gandalf]

Here's the part everyone seems to forget. The reason wladdys jab seems so effective is because if anyone tries to counter him or even attack first, he's just gonna hold them to death. He knew he probably wouldn't get away with it in England so he forced the fight to one of his home turfs where he can do as he likes.

Hopefully Haye can overcome that with speed and knock his scared ass out.

Hilarious stuff though Danny

Didn't Ali hold? Didn't Lennox Lewis hold? Didn't MIKE TYSON hold? So shut the fuck up about Wlad holding, he has done nothing that the people who ran the division before him haven't done. I'm not comparing Wladimir's achievements to those of the aforementioned Greats but if you take a look back through the history of the division ALL of the greats bent the rules in their favor and The Klitschko's are not different. Wlad is a smart fighter, Ali was a smart fighter, Lennox Lewis was a smart fighter, etc. you use the clinch to stay out of range and keep from getting hit and also use your size advantage to tire out your opponent...it's just common damn sense that heavyweights are going to do that.

It's not ONLY punching power that gets you KO's...Wladimir knows how to weaken his opponents before he breaks them....and David Haye will find this out the hard way

Bx730NY has a point though. Wlad is never going to be a heavyweight you can say you truly enjoy watching. He is boring. He is dominant in the division, but you cannot get a more tedious fighter to watch. Very smart and manipulates what he can get away with very well, but dull is dull.

More points should be docked for excessive holding IMO, it's something too many fighters get away with and it really shouldn't be part of the game. Fighters do it because they can get away with it, but it spoils fights horribly.

I don't mind fighters working on the inside, but to just stop an exchange happening by just clinching...it's just so ugly.

[El Kabong]

If Haye or anyone else wants to beat Wladimir they have to plan on getting around the jab and keeping their hands free and moving when Wladimir gives them the opportunity.

If Wladimir holds and the other fighter keeps punching then #1 the other fighter might win a round and #2 Wlad might look worse to the judges and ref for doing what he does but in recent fights he hasn't clinched as much as everyone bitches about, he has kept pumping the jab which drives people crazy. I agree he should have been more aggressive with Sultan and Rahman but he had both fights in hand so it was a big risk with very little reward to forget defense and forget the punching power of both fighters and freely let his hands go...that may be very entertaining to watch but it isn't smart boxing and with as many flaws as everyone says Wlad has (stamina, chin, defense, etc etc etc) then why the hell would he do that?!?!?!

Wlad is damned either way...If Wladimir came out and flattened David Haye as he did to Ray Austin what does it prove? Haye hasn't been tested at heavyweight, everyone would write off the win and David Haye and continue to complain about Wladimir. If Wladimir tries to swing for the fences vs Haye and gets caught people will still complain about Wladimir and then hype up David Haye who is just an in shape Sam Peter with a very suspect chin. If Wladimir boxes Haye's ears off he will get no respect for it.

People's opinions on Wladimir and his skill have already been formed and that's fine by me, Iam a fan of the guy, he's a very smart fighter, and he's the best in the division because of not only his skill but his smarts in the ring.

You can't find a more tedious fighter to watch at heavyweight miles or just in general?!?! I can name quite a few who are more tedious to watch: Eddie Chambers-Sam Peter, that fight alone gives us 2 guys who aren't spectacular; Nicolay Valuev, John Ruiz, hell I could go on all day long...people complain about the entire division and yet people still want the only good fighters in the division to lose to a loud mouthed diva who's only accomplishments at the heavyweight division any number of regular everyday people could match....2 wins at heavyweight vs crap fighters, Butterbean did better than that

[Gandalf]

If Haye or anyone else wants to beat Wladimir they have to plan on getting around the jab and keeping their hands free and moving when Wladimir gives them the opportunity.

If Wladimir holds and the other fighter keeps punching then #1 the other fighter might win a round and #2 Wlad might look worse to the judges and ref for doing what he does but in recent fights he hasn't clinched as much as everyone bitches about, he has kept pumping the jab which drives people crazy. I agree he should have been more aggressive with Sultan and Rahman but he had both fights in hand so it was a big risk with very little reward to forget defense and forget the punching power of both fighters and freely let his hands go...that may be very entertaining to watch but it isn't smart boxing and with as many flaws as everyone says Wlad has (stamina, chin, defense, etc etc etc) then why the hell would he do that?!?!?!

Wlad is damned either way...If Wladimir came out and flattened David Haye as he did to Ray Austin what does it prove? Haye hasn't been tested at heavyweight, everyone would write off the win and David Haye and continue to complain about Wladimir. If Wladimir tries to swing for the fences vs Haye and gets caught people will still complain about Wladimir and then hype up David Haye who is just an in shape Sam Peter with a very suspect chin. If Wladimir boxes Haye's ears off he will get no respect for it.

People's opinions on Wladimir and his skill have already been formed and that's fine by me, Iam a fan of the guy, he's a very smart fighter, and he's the best in the division because of not only his skill but his smarts in the ring.

You can't find a more tedious fighter to watch at heavyweight miles or just in general?!?! I can name quite a few who are more tedious to watch: Eddie Chambers-Sam Peter, that fight alone gives us 2 guys who aren't spectacular; Nicolay Valuev, John Ruiz, hell I could go on all day long...people complain about the entire division and yet people still want the only good fighters in the division to lose to a loud mouthed diva who's only accomplishments at the heavyweight division any number of regular everyday people could match....2 wins at heavyweight vs crap fighters, Butterbean did better than that

I just think he could be more exciting. His fights do send me to sleep somewhat. Rubbish opposition doesn't help. I don't like fighters who hold too much. And though a fan of Hatton that has been my big critisism of him in recent years. It really is irritating.

As for Wlad against Haye. I think Wlad wins, but I hope Haye can pull it off because he won't be looking to spoil. I don't care much either way though.

[TheDemolitionDan]

OK Haye can go about this a couple of ways...

#1 Haye can try and pounce on Wlad early in which case he may KO Wladimir OR tucker himself out and just get battered for as long as Wlad wants to keep him around.

#2 Haye can try and box with Wladimir and just eat jabs until either Wladimir tires out and Haye KO's him or Wladimir just hammers Haye and David never even wins a round.

#3 Haye is indecisive on whether he should attack or lay back and in that case there is either a clash of heads, Wlad is caught off guard and KO'd, or Haye is just obliterated by Wladimir's power as Haye's chin has NEVER been tested by a heavyweight of note.

I think with Manny Steward in his corner and his psyche in very good shape I see Wladimir being cautious of Haye's power meanwhile landing meaningful and PAINFUL punches which will wear Haye down and stop him in 5-7 rounds.

I have been equal in my view, as equal as I can be...I have listed the ways in which either fighter can win or lose the match. I support Wladimir, I think he's too big, too skilled, and too experienced to be beaten by David Haye....I have been wrong before but this fight IMO is the begining of the end of David Haye

I agree with that. I'm not a fan of David Haye or Wlad, but I will be rooting for David Haye, but I can see this happning exactly as you are saying. I think Haye will start getting frustrated after eating jabs for 4 rounds and he will come into the danger zone and Wlad will land a couple of right hands and that will be it for David Haye. Just another fighter knocked out by Wlad.

[rjj tszyu]

OK Haye can go about this a couple of ways...

#1 Haye can try and pounce on Wlad early in which case he may KO Wladimir OR tucker himself out and just get battered for as long as Wlad wants to keep him around.

#2 Haye can try and box with Wladimir and just eat jabs until either Wladimir tires out and Haye KO's him or Wladimir just hammers Haye and David never even wins a round.

#3 Haye is indecisive on whether he should attack or lay back and in that case there is either a clash of heads, Wlad is caught off guard and KO'd, or Haye is just obliterated by Wladimir's power as Haye's chin has NEVER been tested by a heavyweight of note.

I think with Manny Steward in his corner and his psyche in very good shape I see Wladimir being cautious of Haye's power meanwhile landing meaningful and PAINFUL punches which will wear Haye down and stop him in 5-7 rounds.

I have been equal in my view, as equal as I can be...I have listed the ways in which either fighter can win or lose the match. I support Wladimir, I think he's too big, too skilled, and too experienced to be beaten by David Haye....I have been wrong before but this fight IMO is the begining of the end of David Haye

I'm glad your finally giving Haye a chance of winning. I think this is a "pick em" fight. It's a case of who lands clean on who first for me, but with Haye's clear speed advantage I think he may just get there first.

[El Kabong]

...I don't give Haye a chance, I was just letting everyone know what COULD happen.

Wladimir is going to own him with the jab, Haye will just throw 1 punch at a time and slow down and then get smacked down with the right cross.

[clintuk]

I think it's a bit unfair in any fight to give a fighter absolutely no chance at all, no matter what his past results may have shown. Although I still think Wlad will win, I think Haye has a chance of smacking him one. I certainly doubt whether Wlad has met someone of Haye's speed, and whether Haye has met someone of Wlad's power.

I really hope Haye can make a huge upset here, cos' something needs to be done to liven up the Heavyweight division, and the Klitschko bros certainly aren't gonna do it.

[Bx730NY]

...I don't give Haye a chance, I was just letting everyone know what COULD happen.

Wladimir is going to own him with the jab, Haye will just throw 1 punch at a time and slow down and then get smacked down with the right cross.

The only way wlad is gonna own him is if he holds him to death and is allowed to get away with it. Otherwise I have Haye winning by KO. I don't see Haye beating Vitali though. he's too big and too good.