Quote Originally Posted by VanChilds View Post
National crime rates compared

guns or not your crime rate isn't really better.

now I'm sure this pales in comparison to the US but I guess there are guns in the UK

28 gun crimes committed in UK every day - Telegraph
I'm English but don't live in the UK. The UK is going to the dogs too. No, wouldn't want to live there either!

The UK does sicken me because I actually really do love and have a fondness for the place. I'm not happy with the obvious social and cultural decline that's been going on for too long however. Makes me shudder.