MAB speaks out on Margarito "Plaster-gate"

[Howlin Mad Missy]

No fighter should condone what Margarito did. It's unforgivable. Not unless he admits it, apologize, and fully accept the consequence. He should do time imo.

I read this story yesterday.

I think there has been an element of people standing by Margarito before the verdict/findings came out.

What (some) people have made a deal over is that a Mexican is speaking out against a fellow Mexican.

[Chino]

No fighter should condone what Margarito did. It's unforgivable. Not unless he admits it, apologize, and fully accept the consequence. He should do time imo.

I read this story yesterday.

I think there has been an element of people standing by Margarito before the verdict/findings came out.

What (some) people have made a deal over is that a Mexican is speaking out against a fellow Mexican.

I think the deal in this forum as well is that people like Cotto very much so the fact that Margarito beat Cotto the way he did and even though he WAS CLEARED for that fight people still will throw crap at him no matter what. If Margarito fought Mayweather or ODLH instead of Cotto and beat them the same way and later was caught vs Mosley, I wonder if people would make a big deal out of it and come up with all these countless topics about his wraps, making fun of him, etc.

[TitoFan]

No fighter should condone what Margarito did. It's unforgivable. Not unless he admits it, apologize, and fully accept the consequence. He should do time imo.

I read this story yesterday.

I think there has been an element of people standing by Margarito before the verdict/findings came out.

What (some) people have made a deal over is that a Mexican is speaking out against a fellow Mexican.

I think the deal in this forum as well is that people like Cotto very much so the fact that Margarito beat Cotto the way he did and even though he WAS CLEARED for that fight people still will throw crap at him no matter what. If Margarito fought Mayweather or ODLH instead of Cotto and beat them the same way and later was caught vs Mosley, I wonder if people would make a big deal out of it and come up with all these countless topics about his wraps, making fun of him, etc.

You know... just out of curiousity... how exactly do you "clear" a Margarito for the Cotto fight? Not wanting to start World War III here... just want to know. Think about it. It wasn't even an issue during or after the Cotto fight. How exactly do you "clear" a cheating fighter from his previous fight? Did the wraps from THAT fight get dredged up from the garbage dump and examined the way THESE wraps were? And if not, then how exactly do you "clear" Margarito from cheating in the Cotto fight? I'm just curious. I don't know... maybe I'm going out on a limb here. But if he was gonna do it for the Mosley fight, until he got caught, that is... isn't there just the SLIGHTEST possibility he may have gotten away with it for the Cotto fight, and who knows how many others before it?

Just curious.

[Mr140]

Good point Tito but if we assume he used in Cotto fight then i guess he must of used it in the Clotty, Cintron and Williams fight also right. Which brings me to the point you heard me say it a million times Tito and that is how effect are they really because the results have varyed some. Now i and i am not saying he should not be banned he did cheat but atfer the year is up i while not mind him coming back because he did his time which if he serves i while not have a problem with him at all.

[TitoFan]

Good point Tito but if we assume he used in Cotto fight then i guess he must of used it in the Clotty, Cintron and Williams fight also right. Which brings me to the point you heard me say it a million times Tito and that is how effect are they really because the results have varyed some. Now i and i am not saying he should not be banned he did cheat but atfer the year is up i while not mind him coming back because he did his time which if he serves i while not have a problem with him at all.

Not necessarily. It's highly unlikely it's been a career-long thing. He may have first used it for the Cotto fight, who knows. My point is that I don't see how you can "clear" someone, when the evidence, or lack of, is long gone with the garbage trucks.

[Diane]

Good point Tito but if we assume he used in Cotto fight then i guess he must of used it in the Clotty, Cintron and Williams fight also right. Which brings me to the point you heard me say it a million times Tito and that is how effect are they really because the results have varyed some. Now i and i am not saying he should not be banned he did cheat but atfer the year is up i while not mind him coming back because he did his time which if he serves i while not have a problem with him at all.

Not necessarily. It's highly unlikely it's been a career-long thing. He may have first used it for the Cotto fight, who knows. My point is that I don't see how you can "clear" someone, when the evidence, or lack of, is long gone with the garbage trucks.

Exactly. Plus does anybody really think that the inspector that was appointed by the commission to watch the hand wrapping, is going to admit that he could have missed it. Hell no, he won't admit that he could have fuked up, when it's way to late to be able to check the wraps.

The State of Nevada Athletic Commission came out and cleared him, just 2 days after the Mosley/Margarito fight. That's some thorough investigation that they did there.



Just thought I would throw this in. Here is Dan Rafael's thoughts on the situation.

It's a wrap for Margarito and Capetillo - ESPN

[Mr140]

But at the same time there no proof that he did tell you truth. I dont think he used it in the Cotto fight tell you truth Cotto has always been prone to cuts and his chin and stamina at the end of fights arent to great. Reason i think he used it with Mosley is because Mosley chin is grant and he is a strong finisher so to me it would make sense would it not. Anyhow i while never know how many times Margarito used it your guess it as good as mine but i not going to pick in choose what fights he used it in though.

[Mr140]

Also Tito question people saying that Cotto was first time Margarito used plaster in his hand wraps. But then those same people say there is no way it was his first time Maragrito used it against Mosley that just sounds like they are using a double standard because there no proof behind it at all. To me it is Margarito first time or he has been doing it for a while now. And there really nothing i have seen that would make me think of any differently tell you the truth.

[Chino]

I read this story yesterday.

I think there has been an element of people standing by Margarito before the verdict/findings came out.

What (some) people have made a deal over is that a Mexican is speaking out against a fellow Mexican.

I think the deal in this forum as well is that people like Cotto very much so the fact that Margarito beat Cotto the way he did and even though he WAS CLEARED for that fight people still will throw crap at him no matter what. If Margarito fought Mayweather or ODLH instead of Cotto and beat them the same way and later was caught vs Mosley, I wonder if people would make a big deal out of it and come up with all these countless topics about his wraps, making fun of him, etc.

You know... just out of curiousity... how exactly do you "clear" a Margarito for the Cotto fight? Not wanting to start World War III here... just want to know. Think about it. It wasn't even an issue during or after the Cotto fight. How exactly do you "clear" a cheating fighter from his previous fight? Did the wraps from THAT fight get dredged up from the garbage dump and examined the way THESE wraps were? And if not, then how exactly do you "clear" Margarito from cheating in the Cotto fight? I'm just curious. I don't know... maybe I'm going out on a limb here. But if he was gonna do it for the Mosley fight, until he got caught, that is...

Nope, no need for III World War but someone even started a thread and shared links to different sites that had these articles talking about how Margarito was cleared from the Cotto fight after it. Would be interesting to pull those links back and see how it was. I would agree with you, I mean, they would have to go back in time and check his wraps. But those articles said he was cleared however they did it.

isn't there just the SLIGHTEST possibility he may have gotten away with it for the Cotto fight, and who knows how many others before it?

I'll say so. After being caught, his past victories are now questionable. But then again, isn't there the SLIGHTEST possibility that he didn't cheat vs Cotto?

Like I have said before, I am not sure if people would really make a big drama if he was defeated by Cotto and then caught cheating before the Mosley fight. I wonder if Margarito beat the forum's hated Mayweather and ODLH before the Mosley fight, would people really complain and come up with more than 10 threads a week about Margarito being so bad? I can imagine seeing a drastic change in attitudes if it was not Cotto who Margarito beat and later found cheating vs Mosley.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

not sure what you're pushing here chino. It's like looking for God. No evidence but people are going to believe whatever they want. If people want to believe he cheated because of the way he eventually got to Cotto then that's up to them but I can't convict someone on that.

It's true people will question his previous victories but damn what were those commission officials and opposing fighters representatives doing to miss it? It seems they only got caught out because the gauze pads looked used.

[gyrokai]

You guys know I'm a big Margarito fan. Seen him fight live, had ringside level seats. For years I fought for him, against the Mayweather fans, .... my sad click ratio could attest to that. Newbies won't know what I'm talkin' about there.


But the news, from the first time I heard it. in the first round fighting Shane Mosley. It hurt me. I know what damage can be done from this awful act.


I can't believe he did it.
All this time too. He just had to have done it more than once.

[Chicali]

Who give a #*^~ what MAB says about Margarito, he doesnt like fighters from TJ like Erik and Tony so he should stick with the D.F. crowd and keep shut. Erik should kick his ass again.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

[quote=Howlin Mad Missy;711660]

Who give a #*^~ what MAB says about Margarito, he doesnt like fighters from TJ like Erik and Tony so he should stick with the D.F. crowd and keep shut. Erik should kick his ass again.

Is that because TJ is full of americans and whores?



again?

[Chicali]

[quote=Howlin Mad Missy;711662]

Who give a #*^~ what MAB says about Margarito, he doesnt like fighters from TJ like Erik and Tony so he should stick with the D.F. crowd and keep shut. Erik should kick his ass again.

Is that because TJ is full of americans and whores?



again?

More like full of mafia and cartels where a wrong turn can get you beheaded.

[GAME]

Chicali

Barrera speaks for all Mexicans because he is the greatest of them all. His opinion is the most important