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[VictorCharlie]

Miles I know you feel strongly about the Israel/Palestine issue, but I think you can agree that Israel is a stable country who is unikely to distribute nukes to extremists and would only use nukes in self defense. North Korea is woefully unstable and the prospect of it being nuclear armed could lead to even less savory groups obtaining such weapons. This stands true of Iran as well. I think as long as they are calling for the destruction of Israel (even if it is just lip service) and sponsoring terrorist groups the world should be wary of them becoming a nuclear power.

The bad countries already have the bomb. Including your own country and mine. North Korea has the right to defend itself too. It doesn't have nuclear arms but it has the right to them.

Israel should be destroyed and nuked to oblivion. Are you asking me if that is nice or not?

So Israel doesn't have the right to defend its self? I mean seriously you can't see that the world is a safer place with North Korea not having a nuclear arsenal?

[Gandalf]

Miles I know you feel strongly about the Israel/Palestine issue, but I think you can agree that Israel is a stable country who is unikely to distribute nukes to extremists and would only use nukes in self defense. North Korea is woefully unstable and the prospect of it being nuclear armed could lead to even less savory groups obtaining such weapons. This stands true of Iran as well. I think as long as they are calling for the destruction of Israel (even if it is just lip service) and sponsoring terrorist groups the world should be wary of them becoming a nuclear power.

The bad countries already have the bomb. Including your own country and mine. North Korea has the right to defend itself too. It doesn't have nuclear arms but it has the right to them.

Israel should be destroyed and nuked to oblivion. Are you asking me if that is nice or not?

So Israel doesn't have the right to defend its self? I mean seriously you can't see that the world is a safer place with North Korea not having a nuclear arsenal?

I think the world would be a safer place if there were no nuclear bombs. I only ever recall one country using nuclear wepaons to harm people. They should all be sent into space as far as I'm concerned.

The Israel issue is a complicated one. I think there is self defence and there is being a bully. Israel has often taken on the role of bully in the Middle East, and that is just as dangerous as any North Korean threat to its neighbors.

[VictorCharlie]

I agree we would be better with no nukes, but is that a plausible reality?

[Gandalf]

I agree we would be better with no nukes, but is that a plausible reality?

No, not now, unfortunately. Which is why I think it's hypocritical of nations with nukes to try and dictate to nations who want to procure or develop nukes. There is no moral argument as far as I can see. If you have a deterrent then I should be able to have the same.

[VictorCharlie]

I don't think North Korea has any intention of using nukes on any one regardless of their rhetoric. That being said it is a very unstable nation. There are a myriad of scenarios where a NKR nuke could be used by a terrorist org or be used preemptively. I agree with Kirk in that I think their ability to build such a weapon are greatly exaggerated but not the ominous possibilities if it were true.

[Gandalf]

I don't think North Korea has any intention of using nukes on any one regardless of their rhetoric. That being said it is a very unstable nation. There are a myriad of scenarios where a NKR nuke could be used by a terrorist org or be used preemptively. I agree with Kirk in that I think their ability to build such a weapon are greatly exaggerated but not the ominous possibilities if it were true.

North Korea is a despicable state, but one that just wants to survive. Gaining access to nuclear weapons is just another means of self preservation. I agree with the both of you that the rhetoric is probably far more than what has actually been devloped in North Korea.

I would prefer North Korea to remain nuclear free, but could not argue a moral case againt them having the right to develop such an arsenal.