So much for Mayweather-Marquez

[Kel]

Smart move by Marquez. He ain't going to sell his soul and put himself at a disadvantage like Hatton did just for money

Hatton is no smaller than PBF naturally. The fact this comes from Beristain makes it suspect. I reckon the fight still gets made at like 143 or something. But JMM hopefully will be smart & not simply be Floyd's tune-up

There were a lot of advantages in Floyds favour, not just the weight the fight was at.

[JazMerkin]

Smart move by Marquez. He ain't going to sell his soul and put himself at a disadvantage like Hatton did just for money

Hatton is no smaller than PBF naturally. The fact this comes from Beristain makes it suspect. I reckon the fight still gets made at like 143 or something. But JMM hopefully will be smart & not simply be Floyd's tune-up

There were a lot of advantages in Floyds favour, not just the weight the fight was at.

Yeah, of course Hatton had it all against him

The weight argument was bollocks and only came up after the fight to try and find some excuses for Ricky. He may not be a natural welterweight, but he was also not fighting a natural welterweight, if anything Hatton is a naturally bigger more muscled fighter than Mayweather.

Cortez wasn't great for Ricky, but he was a lot better than Parris was for Tszyu, although of course there was obviously the advantage in Floyd's favour that he is an infinitely more talented fighter than Hatton could ever be

[Beanflicker]

The weight argument was bollocks and only came up after the fight to try and find some excuses for Ricky. He may not be a natural welterweight, but he was also not fighting a natural welterweight, if anything Hatton is a naturally bigger more muscled fighter than Mayweather.

Had to rep you for this, because (and no offense to British fans, I know they love their boxing) I have NEVER heard a British fan admit this before.

[Althugz]

The weight argument was bollocks and only came up after the fight to try and find some excuses for Ricky. He may not be a natural welterweight, but he was also not fighting a natural welterweight, if anything Hatton is a naturally bigger more muscled fighter than Mayweather.

Had to rep you for this, because (and no offense to British fans, I know they love their boxing) I have NEVER heard a British fan admit this before.

Heyyyyyy!! That's a lie!!

[Kel]

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Hatton had no advantage at all in the fight. Everything was in Floyds favour. Cortez....watch the Hatton Castillo fight, they clinch, fight on the inside and he allows Hatton to do what he does.

In the Floyd fight, as soon as Hatton gets near "NOOOO RICKY LET GO"
and "DONT HIT HIM WHEN HE DUCKS LIKE THAT"

[JazMerkin]

Just wrote a really long and detailed post with pictures and I got an error on submit and firefox shut down (never had firefox do that before)

In short...........

Hatton had no advantage at all in the fight. Everything was in Floyds favour. Cortez....watch the Hatton Castillo fight, they clinch, fight on the inside and he allows Hatton to do what he does.

In the Floyd fight, as soon as Hatton gets near "NOOOO RICKY LET GO"
and "DONT HIT HIM WHEN HE DUCKS LIKE THAT"

I guess I'd have to see the long detailed post because all those points are answered in my post. Hatton had to deal with that partly because Brit fans pissed Cortez off by booing the US anthem. All fighters get the breaks on one occasion & not on others. Hatton did not lose because of Cortez, he lost because he was the the inferior fighter.

[Kel]

Just wrote a really long and detailed post with pictures and I got an error on submit and firefox shut down (never had firefox do that before)

In short...........

Hatton had no advantage at all in the fight. Everything was in Floyds favour. Cortez....watch the Hatton Castillo fight, they clinch, fight on the inside and he allows Hatton to do what he does.

In the Floyd fight, as soon as Hatton gets near "NOOOO RICKY LET GO"
and "DONT HIT HIM WHEN HE DUCKS LIKE THAT"

I guess I'd have to see the long detailed post because all those points are answered in my post. Hatton had to deal with that partly because Brit fans pissed Cortez off by booing the US anthem. All fighters get the breaks on one occasion & not on others. Hatton did not lose because of Cortez, he lost because he was the the inferior fighter.

If a booing crowd can change how a referee does their job........they should not be a referee should they?

[JazMerkin]

Just wrote a really long and detailed post with pictures and I got an error on submit and firefox shut down (never had firefox do that before)

In short...........

Hatton had no advantage at all in the fight. Everything was in Floyds favour. Cortez....watch the Hatton Castillo fight, they clinch, fight on the inside and he allows Hatton to do what he does.

In the Floyd fight, as soon as Hatton gets near "NOOOO RICKY LET GO"
and "DONT HIT HIM WHEN HE DUCKS LIKE THAT"

I guess I'd have to see the long detailed post because all those points are answered in my post. Hatton had to deal with that partly because Brit fans pissed Cortez off by booing the US anthem. All fighters get the breaks on one occasion & not on others. Hatton did not lose because of Cortez, he lost because he was the the inferior fighter.

If a booing crowd can change how a referee does their job........they should not be a referee should they?

I never said he was a good ref (although he was actually alright last night) he's been pretty shit in the last few years. But blaming Cortez/the weight/Billy Graham has seemed to be Hatton & his fans way of trying to rationalize the loss. Cortez was bad, but he didn't cost Ricky the fight, this was not a Soto-Lorenzo or a Bute-Andrade job

[Kel]

I guess I'd have to see the long detailed post because all those points are answered in my post. Hatton had to deal with that partly because Brit fans pissed Cortez off by booing the US anthem. All fighters get the breaks on one occasion & not on others. Hatton did not lose because of Cortez, he lost because he was the the inferior fighter.

If a booing crowd can change how a referee does their job........they should not be a referee should they?

I never said he was a good ref (although he was actually alright last night) he's been pretty shit in the last few years. But blaming Cortez/the weight/Billy Graham has seemed to be Hatton & his fans way of trying to rationalize the loss. Cortez was bad, but he didn't cost Ricky the fight, this was not a Soto-Lorenzo or a Bute-Andrade job

I'm a Hatton fan, I won't try to convince you Hatton is the better fighter, he just never got the chance to fight his fight. Not one bit

[Violent Demise]

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In short...........

Hatton had no advantage at all in the fight. Everything was in Floyds favour. Cortez....watch the Hatton Castillo fight, they clinch, fight on the inside and he allows Hatton to do what he does.

In the Floyd fight, as soon as Hatton gets near "NOOOO RICKY LET GO"
and "DONT HIT HIM WHEN HE DUCKS LIKE THAT"

That's cuz all Hatton cared about was the money. He sold his soul to fight Mayweather. Anything Mayweather wanted he got. All Hatton cared about was the money

[Taeth]

Hatton didn't sell his soul to fight Mayweather, and the fight was closer to Hatton's natural weight class than Mayweather's natural weight class, people act like Mayweaher is a natural welterweight, then why does he come in like 2 pounds over the limit for a fight? The fact is Mayweather weight less than Hatton coming into the ring when they fought.

Mayweather wasn't complaining when he moved up to 154 to fight Oscar or when he faced Baldomir who was 13 pounds heavier than him in the ring. He didn't force Judah to come back down to 140 to fight him. His whole career he has been moving up to face new challenges.

Once again how does Mayweather size except his height give him any advantage over Marquez given his style, and given how they would match up. It would be a fight foughten on the outside where Marquez staying small might actually help him.

[Violent Demise]

Hatton didn't sell his soul to fight Mayweather, and the fight was closer to Hatton's natural weight class than Mayweather's natural weight class, people act like Mayweaher is a natural welterweight, then why does he come in like 2 pounds over the limit for a fight? The fact is Mayweather weight less than Hatton coming into the ring when they fought.

Mayweather wasn't complaining when he moved up to 154 to fight Oscar or when he faced Baldomir who was 13 pounds heavier than him in the ring. He didn't force Judah to come back down to 140 to fight him. His whole career he has been moving up to face new challenges.

Once again how does Mayweather size except his height give him any advantage over Marquez given his style, and given how they would match up. It would be a fight foughten on the outside where Marquez staying small might actually help him.

Your missing the point. I'm not saying Mayweather had a bigger size advantage. Not that it matters cuz Mayweather spears Hatton into the ring post at any weight. The point is Hatton gave Mayweather everything he wanted cuz he just wanted the money. If Floyd would of wanted Roger Mayweather as the referee I'm sure Hatton would say no. But let Floyd throw in an extra half mill and Roger is trying on his zebra shirt.

[Taeth]

So Marquez not selling out to fight Mayweather or is he afraid to face Mayweather and using excuses? What I am saying is if Marquez doesn't want to fight Mayweather because its an obvious mismatch thats valid to me, but to use size and shit when Mayweather fights the way he does IMO is weak. Mayweather is getting heat for fighting smaller guys, but he also fought bigger guys like Corrales, Ndou, Castillo, Gatti, ODLH, Baldomir, even Zab Judah, besides Judah a lot of these guys had significant weight advantages usually over 8 pounds difference.

[Gandalf]

Just wrote a really long and detailed post with pictures and I got an error on submit and firefox shut down (never had firefox do that before)

In short...........

Hatton had no advantage at all in the fight. Everything was in Floyds favour. Cortez....watch the Hatton Castillo fight, they clinch, fight on the inside and he allows Hatton to do what he does.

In the Floyd fight, as soon as Hatton gets near "NOOOO RICKY LET GO"
and "DONT HIT HIM WHEN HE DUCKS LIKE THAT"

That's cuz all Hatton cared about was the money. He sold his soul to fight Mayweather. Anything Mayweather wanted he got. All Hatton cared about was the money

A bit over the top, but I agree with that to an extent. Hatton shouldn't have gone to 147, but in his head he was unbeatable. The Collazo fight should have been a lesson learned. Hindsight is always a mans friend, I guess.

[Kel]

Just wrote a really long and detailed post with pictures and I got an error on submit and firefox shut down (never had firefox do that before)

In short...........

Hatton had no advantage at all in the fight. Everything was in Floyds favour. Cortez....watch the Hatton Castillo fight, they clinch, fight on the inside and he allows Hatton to do what he does.

In the Floyd fight, as soon as Hatton gets near "NOOOO RICKY LET GO"
and "DONT HIT HIM WHEN HE DUCKS LIKE THAT"

That's cuz all Hatton cared about was the money. He sold his soul to fight Mayweather. Anything Mayweather wanted he got. All Hatton cared about was the money

Yeah he chased the cash and it went againsed him. He was beat before the fight started anyway, Floyd got into his head and fukked it. Hatton looked so fired up at the weigh in but the next day when that bell rang that fire was doused and smouldering.