So much for Mayweather-Marquez

[Violent Demise]

Mayweather oppsessed over the De La Hoya fight. He wanted it badly. Marquez wants to fight Mayweather. But he ain't desperate for it. He ain't going to sell his soul and put himself at a huge disadvantage for money. Marquez don't roll that way.

If your able to read between the lines it's pretty obvious what Marquez is doing. Marquez is pretty much trying to see if Floyd is a biitch or not. Marquez is pretty much asking Floyd "You won't fight unless your the bigger man and have every advantage, huh"? I'm very intrested in Mayweather's response.

What a load of crap!

Marquez wants money same as Mayweather. There ain't no evil in making money over fighting at a higher weight! Negotiations are part of the game. Marquez ain't in control of making the bout happen, Mayweather is because he can pretty much dictate when where and how much. Besides that if Mayweather is looking at Marqeuz as a tuneup why the hell should he kill himself to make weight?

Mayweather can't dictate shit. If Marquez doesn't feel he'd be competitive at 140 or higher, the fight won't happen. Kudos to him for knowing boxing's limits and not turning this into a circus. And don't forget, Floyd's been away from boxing for awhile. So he's not in a position to be making outlandish demands.

Outstanding post. Marquez doesn't go out like a biitch. If he don't like the way things are than he'll walk away. That simple. Yeah I'm sure the money that comes from fighting Mayweather would be great. But some how i doubt Marquez is struggling to eat

[XaduBoxer]

I hope JMM walking away from a big money PBF fight is not following the bad move committed by Team JMM before... walking away from a big money PAC rematch fight and accepted a $30k purse to fight in Indonesia only to lose to Chris John...

Team JMM needs to evaluate the situation carefully...
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[Violent Demise]

I hope JMM walking away from a big money PBF fight is not following the bad move committed by Team JMM before... walking away from a big money PAC rematch fight and accepted a $30k purse to fight in Indonesia only to lose to Chris John...

Team JMM needs to evaluate the situation carefully...
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Just shows money doesn't run Marquez like it does other fighters. Marquez was promised 1.5 million for the Pacquaio rematch. When they tried to come at him with $750,000 Marquez wasn't going to biitch up and give in. He walked away. Yeah what happened afterwards was unfortunate. But no fighter can predict they will be robbed in a fight

[XaduBoxer]

I hope JMM walking away from a big money PBF fight is not following the bad move committed by Team JMM before... walking away from a big money PAC rematch fight and accepted a $30k purse to fight in Indonesia only to lose to Chris John...

Team JMM needs to evaluate the situation carefully...
.

Just shows money doesn't run Marquez like it does other fighters. Marquez was promised 1.5 million for the Pacquaio rematch. When they tried to come at him with $750,000 Marquez wasn't going to biitch up and give in. He walked away. Yeah what happened afterwards was unfortunate. But no fighter can predict they will be robbed in a fight

Team JMM should evaluate what weigh more, losing to PBF (and earn big money) or losing to Erik Morales/Edwin Valero (earning moderate money)...
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[Violent Demise]

I hope JMM walking away from a big money PBF fight is not following the bad move committed by Team JMM before... walking away from a big money PAC rematch fight and accepted a $30k purse to fight in Indonesia only to lose to Chris John...

Team JMM needs to evaluate the situation carefully...
.

Just shows money doesn't run Marquez like it does other fighters. Marquez was promised 1.5 million for the Pacquaio rematch. When they tried to come at him with $750,000 Marquez wasn't going to biitch up and give in. He walked away. Yeah what happened afterwards was unfortunate. But no fighter can predict they will be robbed in a fight

Team JMM should evaluate what weigh more, losing to PBF (and earn big money) or losing to Erik Morales/Edwin Valero (earning moderate money)...
.

Marquez is going to do what the fukk he wants to do. Marquez is not one of those fighters who will take a fight he knows he can't win just cuz he's getting "big money".

[XaduBoxer]

Just shows money doesn't run Marquez like it does other fighters. Marquez was promised 1.5 million for the Pacquaio rematch. When they tried to come at him with $750,000 Marquez wasn't going to biitch up and give in. He walked away. Yeah what happened afterwards was unfortunate. But no fighter can predict they will be robbed in a fight

Team JMM should evaluate what weigh more, losing to PBF (and earn big money) or losing to Erik Morales/Edwin Valero (earning moderate money)...
.

Marquez is going to do what the fukk he wants to do. Marquez is not one of those fighters who will take a fight he knows he can't win just cuz he's getting "big money".

Then why JMM made the mistake of calling out PBF?? Only very few will give JMM a tiny chance against PBF...
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[Gandalf]

VD is right, there is no point in Marquez fighting at 147. It's just not feasible and Marquez would be better off walking away. It's a nice pay day, but Marquez can make decent paydays elsewhere, he is a top draw fighter these days.

I would rather Marquez test the waters at 140 against a decent name and then have a final fight against Pac. Then his career is pretty much done. No need to fight Mayweather.

Hopefully Hatton beats up Pac and then Pac has nowhere to go but to Marquez again.

[Majesty]

I hope JMM walking away from a big money PBF fight is not following the bad move committed by Team JMM before... walking away from a big money PAC rematch fight and accepted a $30k purse to fight in Indonesia only to lose to Chris John...

Team JMM needs to evaluate the situation carefully...
.

Just shows money doesn't run Marquez like it does other fighters. Marquez was promised 1.5 million for the Pacquaio rematch. When they tried to come at him with $750,000 Marquez wasn't going to biitch up and give in. He walked away. Yeah what happened afterwards was unfortunate. But no fighter can predict they will be robbed in a fight

Then do you think Marquez would have a bigger chance against Mayweather at 140?

[Killa From Manila]

I'd say...

JMM 70/30 PBF @ 135 (no way it will happen there)

JMM 50/50 PBF @ 140

JMM 40/60 PBF @ 143-145 (catchweight)

JMM 20/80 PBF @ 147

JMM 10/90 PBF @ 154 (it aint gonna happen there too, especially)

[fan johnny]

I'd say...

JMM 70/30 PBF @ 135 (no way it will happen there)

JMM 50/50 PBF @ 140

JMM 40/60 PBF @ 143-145 (catchweight)

JMM 20/80 PBF @ 147

JMM 10/90 PBF @ 154 (it aint gonna happen there too, especially)

IMO:
Both fighters have the frame to meet at any of these weightclasses in fighting condition. Typically it's harder for the fighter coming down in weight to maintain stamina for the fight and it's harder for the fighter going up to carry the weight. Mayweather's style kills Marquez in any class.

JMM 45/55 PBF @ 135

JMM 40/60 PBF @ 140

JMM 35/65 PBF @ 143-145 (Match/Weightclass)

JMM 30/70 PBF @ 147

[TitoFan]

Why do some boxing fans care so much about "how much so-and-so gets to face joe blow at this weight"..... "how much he gets for facing joe blow at that weight"..... blah, blah, blah. I'm not nearly as interested about the finances of boxing as I am in the boxing itself. Marquez is willing to give up a few million $$$ by not facing PBF at a weight he KNOWS he can't carry?!? Good for him!! That's his God-given right, for crying out loud. VD said it pretty well. Marquez is not selling out to get the cheap payday, when he knows 147 is way above his ideal fighting weight. What the hell is this fascination with jumping all over the weight divisions, anyway? In the old days, you moved up one, maybe two divisions. Hell, I'd rather move up one division, and dominate in both of them, than jump through 5 or 6 divisions just to say I've done it, pick up a few more million, and get my ass drubbed all over the ring. Besides, when you've won 40-50 million over a career... what's 5 or 10 more?

Just my two cents worth.

[Violent Demise]

I hope JMM walking away from a big money PBF fight is not following the bad move committed by Team JMM before... walking away from a big money PAC rematch fight and accepted a $30k purse to fight in Indonesia only to lose to Chris John...

Team JMM needs to evaluate the situation carefully...
.

Just shows money doesn't run Marquez like it does other fighters. Marquez was promised 1.5 million for the Pacquaio rematch. When they tried to come at him with $750,000 Marquez wasn't going to biitch up and give in. He walked away. Yeah what happened afterwards was unfortunate. But no fighter can predict they will be robbed in a fight

Then do you think Marquez would have a bigger chance against Mayweather at 140?

Not a big one. No. But he has a chance. At 147 he has none. Marquez shouldn't have to put on 12 pounds just to make Mayweather happy. They should fight at a catch weight of 141. Marquez can put on 6 pounds. Mayweather can drop 6 pounds.

[XaduBoxer]

I hope JMM walking away from a big money PBF fight is not following the bad move committed by Team JMM before... walking away from a big money PAC rematch fight and accepted a $30k purse to fight in Indonesia only to lose to Chris John...

Team JMM needs to evaluate the situation carefully...
.

Just shows money doesn't run Marquez like it does other fighters. Marquez was promised 1.5 million for the Pacquaio rematch. When they tried to come at him with $750,000 Marquez wasn't going to biitch up and give in. He walked away. Yeah what happened afterwards was unfortunate. But no fighter can predict they will be robbed in a fight

JMM went to Indonesia (Chris John's hometown) to fight a champion (Chris John) for $30k, what do you expect him to do? Team JMM knows well that he needs to dominate John for a convincing victory or knock out the sh!t out of John... But JMM was not able to do that (I dunno why )... The fight was close and John retained the champion's belt...
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[Violent Demise]

I hope JMM walking away from a big money PBF fight is not following the bad move committed by Team JMM before... walking away from a big money PAC rematch fight and accepted a $30k purse to fight in Indonesia only to lose to Chris John...

Team JMM needs to evaluate the situation carefully...
.

Just shows money doesn't run Marquez like it does other fighters. Marquez was promised 1.5 million for the Pacquaio rematch. When they tried to come at him with $750,000 Marquez wasn't going to biitch up and give in. He walked away. Yeah what happened afterwards was unfortunate. But no fighter can predict they will be robbed in a fight

JMM went to Indonesia (Chris John's hometown) to fight a champion (Chris John) for $30k, what do you expect him to do? Team JMM knows well that he needs to dominate John for a convincing victory or knock out the sh!t out of John... But JMM was not able to do that (I dunno why )... The fight was close and John retained the champion's belt...
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Some of you clowns really need help with your Boxing knowledge. Marquez had 2 points that were unfairly deducted form him. And he still did enough to get the win. To consider John the champion in that fight over Marquez was a disgrace. The only reason John even had a title was cuz it was stolen from Marquez for not facing Fahprakorb Rakk... whatever the fukk his name is.

[XaduBoxer]

Just shows money doesn't run Marquez like it does other fighters. Marquez was promised 1.5 million for the Pacquaio rematch. When they tried to come at him with $750,000 Marquez wasn't going to biitch up and give in. He walked away. Yeah what happened afterwards was unfortunate. But no fighter can predict they will be robbed in a fight

JMM went to Indonesia (Chris John's hometown) to fight a champion (Chris John) for $30k, what do you expect him to do? Team JMM knows well that he needs to dominate John for a convincing victory or knock out the sh!t out of John... But JMM was not able to do that (I dunno why )... The fight was close and John retained the champion's belt...
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Some of you clowns really need help with your Boxing knowledge. Marquez had 2 points that were unfairly deducted form him. And he still did enough to get the win. To consider John the champion in that fight over Marquez was a disgrace. The only reason John even had a title was cuz it was stolen from Marquez for not facing Fahprakorb Rakk... whatever the fukk his name is.

JMM did threw some low blows maybe out of frustration that he can't catch John thus the deductions... Fact is, Chris John the champion and JMM the challenger in that fight... The challenger needs to do more in order to dethrone the champion... JMM didn't do that...

Here's one of JMM's clear low blows:





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