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    I am probably tempting fate, but de la Hoya is a smart cookie and hopefully will not be back.

    As for fighters who retired too early, well I think the example given (Naseem Hamed) is not good. The Barrera fight finished Naseem, it was just the Prince was smart enough to realize that.

    He had money, but did not have the fire in the belly no more (I guess them pies he ate, put it out), so he did the smart thing.

    An example I would use of fighters who perhaps retired too early would include someone like Jemal Hinton, a Kronk fighter, who looked like he might have what he it took, just to call it a day at 22-0.

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    has there been many gd fighters who retired early undefeated

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    Quote Originally Posted by eleven View Post
    has there been many gd fighters who retired early undefeated
    One of the sadder stories would be Lazlo Papp.

    Papp was a truly brilliant Hungarian fighter who was the first fighter to win Gold medals in three consecutive Olympics (1948, 1952 and 1956). But because he was from a then Communist country, he was not allowed to turn pro.

    Public pressure eventually forced the government to let Papp turn pro in 1957, aged 31.

    Over the next seven years Papp built up an 27-0-2 record, becoming European Champion and the generally recognized #1 contender for Middleweight World Champion Joey Giardello's crown.

    But with a World Championship fight in the offing, the Hungarian Government got cold feet, and refused Papp permission to fight Giardello, thus Papp called it a day.
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    DLH stuck around too long....Great fighter in his day that used his name to capitalize on his past best years..

    The Pacquiao bout was a huge mistake...Even if he won it was a mistake...the fight will haunt his legacy

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    DLH stuck around too long....Great fighter in his day that used his name to capitalize on his past best years..

    The Pacquiao bout was a huge mistake...Even if he won it was a mistake...the fight will haunt his legacy
    Time will heal the wound. I do not know about you, but when I think of an Ali, I think of Frazier, Foreman and Liston; not Spinks, Holmes and Berbick....

    Oscar probably did go on too long, and it will take a little to get the bad taste out your mouth, but you will..... It could be worse, eh Evander?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Britkid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    DLH stuck around too long....Great fighter in his day that used his name to capitalize on his past best years..

    The Pacquiao bout was a huge mistake...Even if he won it was a mistake...the fight will haunt his legacy
    Time will heal the wound. I do not know about you, but when I think of an Ali, I think of Frazier, Foreman and Liston; not Spinks, Holmes and Berbick....

    Oscar probably did go on too long, and it will take a little to get the bad taste out your mouth, but you will..... It could be worse, eh Evander?

    I don't have a bad taste about Oscar fighting so long I just hate to see great fighters do it to themselves....But with all fairness since you mentioned Evander.....Oscar was never that caliber of downhill and he more then likely could beat a lot of guys at 154 just he can not compete with the young guys in their prime anymore

    Ali was just sad...Broke my heart to see him lose to guys like Berbick in the end

    When it comes to fellows like Evander I think the commission needs to say enough is enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    When it comes to fellows like Evander I think the commission needs to say enough is enough
    No, that cannot happen, the only justification for this sport is that a fighter has the right to take the risk if he wishes. And if Holyfield is fit enough to pass the medicals, then he should be licenced to box.

    The sad thing is, the never say die attitude that gave us the Holyfield/Bowe trilogy, Holyfield/StewartI, Holyfield/Dokes and Holyfield/QawiI, is the same attitude that makes a 46 year old man think he is capable of becoming World Champ once more....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Britkid View Post
    I am probably tempting fate, but de la Hoya is a smart cookie and hopefully will not be back.

    As for fighters who retired too early, well I think the example given (Naseem Hamed) is not good. The Barrera fight finished Naseem, it was just the Prince was smart enough to realize that.

    He had money, but did not have the fire in the belly no more (I guess them pies he ate, put it out), so he did the smart thing.

    An example I would use of fighters who perhaps retired too early would include someone like Jemal Hinton, a Kronk fighter, who looked like he might have what he it took, just to call it a day at 22-0.

    Jemal Hinton
    No doubt with Hinton.Huge mystery.I think alot of it was frustration over being on the back burner a bit to the Carrs,Moorers,etc.He and his father were openly ctitical of having the Championship fight elude him even with massive exposure and a solid run.You could see it in the prior to the Nolasco fight.His father seemed to butt heads with Manny.

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    Marvis Frazier,those two loses,he didnt fight like the Ammie he was,he tried to slug it out.
    If he had re-tuned,and gone back to being a sniper,he could have made noise.
    Ann Wolfe,Ann with one good arm beats 90% of the female fighters out there in any weight class she wants to be in.
    Boom Boom Mancini-His head wasnt in the game,but his skills were still fine,a good therapist to get him over the Kim fight.........

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