Now that De La Hoya has retired, what should his record have actually been??

[THE THIRD MAN]

He beat Trinidad, i had it 117-110 an amazing decision considering it was one of DLH's best performances, yes he lost the last 3 rounds but he wasn't going to knock Trinidad out so why take the risk, he didn't count on incompetent judges.

He also beat Mosley in the second fight, amazingly judges give this to Mosley as a UD when again DLH fought a great fight and i think won a hard fought decision. I had that one 115-113 for DLH .The first fight was a MD for Mosley, a fight Mosley clearly won...go figure?
He beat Whitaker and Quartey in close decisions that went his way but he deserved the wins.
He was lucky to get the Sturm win
He lost the others to PBF, both Hopkins and Pacman stopped him.
My only beef with Oscar is he didn't fight Tszyu in 1996 or early 97, choosing instead to move up to 147lb to fight Whitaker in April of that year.

He didn't fight Tszyu because Tszyu got knocked out by Vince Phillips. If Tszyu would have won that then the ODLH fight would have happened. The sole reason Kosta Tszyu went to America was for Oscar De La Hoya.

Once again i have to point out the inaccuracies of this statement. The Whitaker fight was fought one month before Tszyu fought Phillips! Oscar was never going back to 140lb again to fight Tszyu, i don't believe he ever wanted to fight Tszyu at all. He had all of 1996 to fight Tszyu and there was no chance of Whitaker ever knocking him out. I would have done the same thing, Whitaker was the marquee name and was the drawcard, why risk everything against a guy who could embarrassley KO him and ruin the golden path to fame and fortune that Oscar ultimately achieved.

[Mr140]

i dont get you master you say Oscar not great but he has more quality wins the chavez does and he considered great. Oscar has wins over Jimmi Bredahl,Jorge Paez,John John Molina,Carl Griffith,Genaro Hernandez,Jesse James Leija,Julio Cesar Chavez,Miguel Angel Gonzalez,Pernell Whitaker,Hector Camacho,Ike Quartey,Arturo Gatti,Fernando Vargas,Felix Sturm,Ricardo Mayorga, and Steve Forbes now not all those names are greats but everyone of them is a champ or held one of big belts. I mean even with his losses he has won titles in sfw,lw,lww,ww,lmw and mm. Not to mention with his competion he has been his title fight record is 25-5 which is not bad what so ever he is atg even with his loses.

[ElTerribleMorales]

He beat Trinidad, i had it 117-110 an amazing decision considering it was one of DLH's best performances, yes he lost the last 3 rounds but he wasn't going to knock Trinidad out so why take the risk, he didn't count on incompetent judges.

He also beat Mosley in the second fight, amazingly judges give this to Mosley as a UD when again DLH fought a great fight and i think won a hard fought decision. I had that one 115-113 for DLH .The first fight was a MD for Mosley, a fight Mosley clearly won...go figure?
He beat Whitaker and Quartey in close decisions that went his way but he deserved the wins.
He was lucky to get the Sturm win
He lost the others to PBF, both Hopkins and Pacman stopped him.
My only beef with Oscar is he didn't fight Tszyu in 1996 or early 97, choosing instead to move up to 147lb to fight Whitaker in April of that year.

He didn't fight Tszyu because Tszyu got knocked out by Vince Phillips. If Tszyu would have won that then the ODLH fight would have happened. The sole reason Kosta Tszyu went to America was for Oscar De La Hoya.

Once again i have to point out the inaccuracies of this statement. The Whitaker fight was fought one month before Tszyu fought Phillips! Oscar was never going back to 140lb again to fight Tszyu, i don't believe he ever wanted to fight Tszyu at all. He had all of 1996 to fight Tszyu and there was no chance of Whitaker ever knocking him out. I would have done the same thing, Whitaker was the marquee name and was the drawcard, why risk everything against a guy who could embarrassley KO him and ruin the golden path to fame and fortune that Oscar ultimately achieved.

in DLH's defense, when Oscar was at 140 Tszyu wasn't the big name he ended up being, Kostya got the huge fame AFTER he KO'd Judah, and i doubt very much Tszyu would have been able to hurt DLH, he had a great chin and was getting close to his peak, if anything DLH could of been the one doing what Phillips did to him