Junior Witters says Kotelnik will KO Khan

[ElTerribleMorales]

Hyped up by whom? When was Witter gonna fight Floyd?

Witter got his ranking fair and square. The ONLY fight that ever made sense in his career was Hatton. They are BOTH British. They were fierce rivals for years. They became the best two fighters in their weight-class. Hatton ducked him. Fact.

what in the world did Witter do to deserve his ranking beat Corley and Harris? those means mean shit hell Hatton's win over Castillo is more impressive than anything Witter has done, and i wasn't impressed by it one bit

Win fights. How does anyone "deserve" their ranking?

Bradley is ranked because of his win against Witter. If Witter is so pathetically unworthy why did Bradley get credit for the win?

he didn't get full credit of anything until now that he also beat Holt, also he gained fame since he was relatively a nobody until he pulled the UPSET and beat Witter

What did Malignaggi do to deserve his ranking? His best win was/is against N'dou. Witter already beat him.

Malignaggi although he lost he lost to the #2 man in the division at the time being Miguel Cotto (Hatton being #1) and he lost in a somewhat competitive fight, and then went on to beat Cherry who was making noise at the time with wins over Meza Clay and Alicea, and also has a win over the tough Herman Ngoudjo

Maussa? He beat that "shit" fighter Vivian Harris? That don't count, right? Witter sparked Harris.

yea Witter knocked out Harris, only after Maussa had already done it in the same exact round 2 years earlier

Urango? His best win was over Rabah. Rabah got stopped by N'Dou. The same N'dou Witter already beat.

he already had a draw against the then unbeaten Mike Arnaoutis and went on to knock Vilches in 4, same Vilches that took Hatton 12 (yea using the fighter who fought the fighter and beat the fighter this way doesn't really mean shit), and he went on to also beat Ngoudjo, and now is gonna take on Berto

Lazcano? He LOST to that "shit" fighter Vivian Harris. The one Witter knocked out.

who the fuck mentioned Lazcano? he hasn't been the same since the Castillo fight, end of

Instead of keep saying Witter is shit. Can you show me why any of the fighters you've listed DESERVE to be rated above him?

i just did, others that deserve to be ranked above Witter are, Ortiz, Holt, Torres, Bailey, Peterson, etc.

I can understand that you hate Khan, I am all ok with it but in all fairness, if he beats Kotelnik, it'll say a lot about his rough potential and he'll deserve some good credit. His main and only problem at the moment is his dubious chin but still, the kid (at 22, we can call him a kid) has talent.

Khan has talent, but he also has a shitty chin which can haunt him for the rest of his career, but honestly a win against Kotelnik proves nothing

Come on, Kotelnik is part of the elite, if he can beat him at 22, it means a lot, the chin will sure haunt him somehow, that I agree but you can't say that at 22 of age it proves nothing if he beats him. If I would follow what you say, whoever he would beat, it would nto prove nothing in the end, which doesn't make sense, if you beat fair and square a top fighter, it has to be recognize as a good achievement, especially at 22.

Khan has talent, but he also has a shitty chin which can haunt him for the rest of his career, but honestly a win against Kotelnik proves nothing

Come on, Kotelnik is part of the elite, if he can beat him at 22, it means a lot, the chin will sure haunt him somehow, that I agree but you can't say that at 22 of age it proves nothing if he beats him. If I would follow what you say, whoever he would beat, it would nto prove nothing in the end, which doesn't make sense, if you beat fair and square a top fighter, it has to be recognize as a good achievement, especially at 22.

I guess our definition of elite differs somewhat.

same thing i was thinking, a win over the crap that is Gavin Reese doesn't make you elite, if Juan Diaz (who has done a hell of a lot more than Kotelnik) isn't considered elite neither should he

what in the world did Witter do to deserve his ranking beat Corley and Harris? those means mean shit hell Hatton's win over Castillo is more impressive than anything Witter has done, and i wasn't impressed by it one bit

Why was it more impressive? Castillo was a good win but to give Witter his due Witter and Corley were both former champs at 140. Far as I know Castillo was one at lightweight and had blown a third fight with corrales because of his weight issues i saw him on FNF he didnt look like he was that good anymore. Corley on the other hand looks like he has a lot left. Was there anyone that didn't think Hatton was gonna beat Castillo?

Corley went on to lose....and lose and lose some more....much more (6 out of his last convincingly than he did to Witter.

The betting on Castillo was 50-50ish.

Opinion on here seemed to be 65-35ish Hatton. Castillo was ranked top ten p4p when the fight was made.

Fightnews Poll
Who will win the June 23 IBO jr welterweight title clash between Ricky Hatton and Jose Luis Castillo?


Hatton by KO 22%
Hatton by decision 24%
Castillo by KO 41%
Castillo by decision 14%


That's where it stood after I voted.

I then went to the Gladiators website (http://www.gladiatorsthefight.com/portal/)
and voted and saw these results

Who will win the battle, Hatton or Castillo?
Castillo by knockout
699 33.1%

Hatton by knockout
650 30.8%

Hatton by decision
493 23.4%

Castillo by decision
270 12.8%

exactly what i'm pointing out, but he's hell bent on trying to make Witter the king at 140 when he shouldn't even really be considered a real player in the division

[Fenster]

what in the world did Witter do to deserve his ranking beat Corley and Harris? those means mean shit hell Hatton's win over Castillo is more impressive than anything Witter has done, and i wasn't impressed by it one bit

Win fights. How does anyone "deserve" their ranking?
he didn't get full credit of anything until now that he also beat Holt, also he gained fame since he was relatively a nobody until he pulled the UPSET and beat Witter
Malignaggi although he lost he lost to the #2 man in the division at the time being Miguel Cotto (Hatton being #1) and he lost in a somewhat competitive fight, and then went on to beat Cherry who was making noise at the time with wins over Meza Clay and Alicea, and also has a win over the tough Herman Ngoudjo

yea Witter knocked out Harris, only after Maussa had already done it in the same exact round 2 years earlier
he already had a draw against the then unbeaten Mike Arnaoutis and went on to knock Vilches in 4, same Vilches that took Hatton 12 (yea using the fighter who fought the fighter and beat the fighter this way doesn't really mean shit), and he went on to also beat Ngoudjo, and now is gonna take on Berto
who the fuck mentioned Lazcano? he hasn't been the same since the Castillo fight, end of

Instead of keep saying Witter is shit. Can you show me why any of the fighters you've listed DESERVE to be rated above him?

i just did, others that deserve to be ranked above Witter are, Ortiz, Holt, Torres, Bailey, Peterson, etc.



same thing i was thinking, a win over the crap that is Gavin Reese doesn't make you elite, if Juan Diaz (who has done a hell of a lot more than Kotelnik) isn't considered elite neither should he

Why was it more impressive? Castillo was a good win but to give Witter his due Witter and Corley were both former champs at 140. Far as I know Castillo was one at lightweight and had blown a third fight with corrales because of his weight issues i saw him on FNF he didnt look like he was that good anymore. Corley on the other hand looks like he has a lot left. Was there anyone that didn't think Hatton was gonna beat Castillo?

Corley went on to lose....and lose and lose some more....much more (6 out of his last convincingly than he did to Witter.

The betting on Castillo was 50-50ish.

Opinion on here seemed to be 65-35ish Hatton. Castillo was ranked top ten p4p when the fight was made.

Fightnews Poll
Who will win the June 23 IBO jr welterweight title clash between Ricky Hatton and Jose Luis Castillo?


Hatton by KO 22%
Hatton by decision 24%
Castillo by KO 41%
Castillo by decision 14%


That's where it stood after I voted.

I then went to the Gladiators website (http://www.gladiatorsthefight.com/portal/)
and voted and saw these results

Who will win the battle, Hatton or Castillo?
Castillo by knockout
699 33.1%

Hatton by knockout
650 30.8%

Hatton by decision
493 23.4%

Castillo by decision
270 12.8%

exactly what i'm pointing out, but he's hell bent on trying to make Witter the king at 140 when he shouldn't even really be considered a real player in the division

Now explain what makes Cherry, Meza Clay, Alicea (Naz sparked him about 20 years ago), Ngoudjo (robbed), Holt and Arnaoutis (P4P no.1 granted) good names to beat?

[ElTerribleMorales]

Win fights. How does anyone "deserve" their ranking?
he didn't get full credit of anything until now that he also beat Holt, also he gained fame since he was relatively a nobody until he pulled the UPSET and beat Witter
Malignaggi although he lost he lost to the #2 man in the division at the time being Miguel Cotto (Hatton being #1) and he lost in a somewhat competitive fight, and then went on to beat Cherry who was making noise at the time with wins over Meza Clay and Alicea, and also has a win over the tough Herman Ngoudjo

yea Witter knocked out Harris, only after Maussa had already done it in the same exact round 2 years earlier
he already had a draw against the then unbeaten Mike Arnaoutis and went on to knock Vilches in 4, same Vilches that took Hatton 12 (yea using the fighter who fought the fighter and beat the fighter this way doesn't really mean shit), and he went on to also beat Ngoudjo, and now is gonna take on Berto
who the fuck mentioned Lazcano? he hasn't been the same since the Castillo fight, end of

Instead of keep saying Witter is shit. Can you show me why any of the fighters you've listed DESERVE to be rated above him?

i just did, others that deserve to be ranked above Witter are, Ortiz, Holt, Torres, Bailey, Peterson, etc.



same thing i was thinking, a win over the crap that is Gavin Reese doesn't make you elite, if Juan Diaz (who has done a hell of a lot more than Kotelnik) isn't considered elite neither should he

Corley went on to lose....and lose and lose some more....much more (6 out of his last convincingly than he did to Witter.

The betting on Castillo was 50-50ish.

Opinion on here seemed to be 65-35ish Hatton. Castillo was ranked top ten p4p when the fight was made.

Fightnews Poll
Who will win the June 23 IBO jr welterweight title clash between Ricky Hatton and Jose Luis Castillo?


Hatton by KO 22%
Hatton by decision 24%
Castillo by KO 41%
Castillo by decision 14%


That's where it stood after I voted.

I then went to the Gladiators website (http://www.gladiatorsthefight.com/portal/)
and voted and saw these results

Who will win the battle, Hatton or Castillo?
Castillo by knockout
699 33.1%

Hatton by knockout
650 30.8%

Hatton by decision
493 23.4%

Castillo by decision
270 12.8%

exactly what i'm pointing out, but he's hell bent on trying to make Witter the king at 140 when he shouldn't even really be considered a real player in the division

Now explain what makes Cherry, Meza Clay, Alicea (Naz sparked him about 20 years ago), Ngoudjo (robbed), Holt and Arnaoutis (P4P no.1 granted) good names to beat?

dude honestly you're delusional, only fight that Ngoudjo was involved in that could have been called robberery, was his "win" against Bailey, Holt came a hell of a lot closer to beating Bradley then your lover Witter, and Arnaoutis at one point was considered one of the best 140 lb'ers out there, i hope Khan wins, cause honestly IMO he'll even beat Witter

[skel1983]

i just did, others that deserve to be ranked above Witter are, Ortiz, Holt, Torres, Bailey, Peterson, etc.



same thing i was thinking, a win over the crap that is Gavin Reese doesn't make you elite, if Juan Diaz (who has done a hell of a lot more than Kotelnik) isn't considered elite neither should he

exactly what i'm pointing out, but he's hell bent on trying to make Witter the king at 140 when he shouldn't even really be considered a real player in the division

Now explain what makes Cherry, Meza Clay, Alicea (Naz sparked him about 20 years ago), Ngoudjo (robbed), Holt and Arnaoutis (P4P no.1 granted) good names to beat?

dude honestly you're delusional, only fight that Ngoudjo was involved in that could have been called robberery, was his "win" against Bailey, Holt came a hell of a lot closer to beating Bradley then your lover Witter, and Arnaoutis at one point was considered one of the best 140 lb'ers out there, i hope Khan wins, cause honestly IMO he'll even beat Witter

Your either Ray Hatton or Rickys agent Paul Speak.

[Kirkland Laing]

exactly what i'm pointing out, but he's hell bent on trying to make Witter the king at 140 when he shouldn't even really be considered a real player in the division

Witter lost a close decision to a guy who now owns two belts. He's got to be in there somewhere.