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    Default Re: Ricky Hatton, "Manny Pacquiao is not versatile".

    Alot of what Hatton says is pretty spot on. Manny isn't versatile in the respect that we never see him on the offensive, he commits himself too much. And sometimes it plays against him, for example against JMM. If pac had been more cautious and used a better defense that would of been a much more smoother fight for him.

    Which kinda ties into Hatton's next statement, pac man definately isn't very elusive. His game plan is to throw alot of punches so people don't throw back, this worked against Oscar but this probably won't work against Hatton. I'm looking forward to this fight so much, as much as I'd like to see Hatton dominating pac man I want it to be a evenly fought bloodbath.

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    Default Re: Ricky Hatton, "Manny Pacquiao is not versatile".

    Hatton is talking jive bullshot.

    If Pac is one-dimensional then Hatton is ZILCH.

    However, Pac IS sort of 1-dimensional. One-two, one-two, one-two, same formula, but it WORKS for him!

    Straight left down the pipe..........

    Why is it so effective? Speed.

    Ricky Hatton wins in a shocker of a KO in the early rounds, maybe Rd. 5.

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    Default Re: Ricky Hatton, "Manny Pacquiao is not versatile".

    Versatile or not. Pac's boxing skill is 10 times better than Hatton.

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    Default Re: Ricky Hatton, "Manny Pacquiao is not versatile".

    I think it's totally wrong and narrowminded not just in this contest which most people see going either way, but in any boxing match to totally rule out an opponent. Everyone has their day, and I'm not saying it will take a miracle for Hatton to beat Pacquiao cos' it won't.

    Pacquiao is the clear fave at this stage, but I think maybe it's a bit too much hype. Not taking anything away from Manny, he's an incredible boxer but Hatton is not an easy win for anyone.

    I'm sure plenty more criticisms would be made of Ricky's style than of Manny's though, lot's of people consider him a wrestler/brawler etc., who likes to get hit in the face as long as he can get on the inside.

    But the fact that these 2 guys possess such different styles is what makes this such a mouth watering prospect, both known for gettin' us our money's worth.

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    Default Re: Ricky Hatton, "Manny Pacquiao is not versatile".

    Pac is one dimensional? he can be aggressive fight great coming forward,and showed n the oscar fight even if oscar was shot that he has great lateral movement,his punches come at beautiful different angles,all hatton knows how to do his hit and hold and hit,and that oscar that pac brutalized,he would have beat hatton
    I always find it interesting how Pac fans brag about his victory vs Diaz and ODLH "The punching bag" who didn't so ANYTHING to really show Pac's skills. ANYBODY can look good against a guy that doesn nothing whatsoever.

    pac man definately isn't very elusive. His game plan is to throw alot of punches so people don't throw back
    I was going to say that. Pac has decent resistance, stamina, power, and punch output. Can't really say that his defense is great. Reason why he finishes his fights with all these cuts, bruises, blood, etc. All I see is the straight left which has gotten him to where he is.

    if pac loses this fight I will delete my account and never get on this website again
    You won't be the only one leaving this forum, I can assure you that. Man up dude, if Hatton loses you will see the same people round. I am not worshipping Hatton or anybody for that matter. As a matter of fact, I am giving Pac the edge like I have in past fights.

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    Default Re: Ricky Hatton, "Manny Pacquiao is not versatile".

    I wouldnt say Pacquiao chin is bad he has never been ko'ed by a head shot so you carnt say its a weak point.Just the fact that it is untested above 130 and he is in with a decent puncher at 140 which is gonna test it.

    Hattons chin has'nt looked great in last few fights against Lazcano and he got stopped at 147 against the p4p champ so no shame in that.But i feel when Hatton is on his game and fully fit going into a fight he can take a punch alot better. He never had good build up for the Collazo and Lazcano fight and he got hurt but look at the fights he was fully fit against KT,Phillips,Urango,Ben Tackie and Castillo all big punchers and he took full shots of them and was ok.

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    Default Re: Ricky Hatton, "Manny Pacquiao is not versatile".

    Think you'll find that if Pacquiao wins that most of the people who want Hatton to win will be very gracious and realise that Ricky was beaten by a better boxer, cos' that's what boxing fans do. If it happens the other way round I'd hope the Manny fans would do the same

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    Default Re: Ricky Hatton, "Manny Pacquiao is not versatile".

    Pac is very good at what he does but he isnt as good when he gets pushed back on the back foot,and that is what Hatton will be doing so we will see if he can adapt to the pressure Hatton will be putting on him.

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    Default Re: Ricky Hatton, "Manny Pacquiao is not versatile".

    Quote Originally Posted by THE BOXING GOD View Post
    Yes I agree,oscar could have been beat by a lot of people that nite,but not hatton,what really matters n this fight is that pac MORE versatile than hatton,he has BETTER movement,in not even sure hatton hits harder than pac,and pac is a southpaw,if I remember correctly the last southpaw hatton fought he didn't look 2 good against,pac is MORE elusive than hatton,pac has a BETTER jab,pac is better than hatton in every aspect of the game,and I meant that statement about deleting my account,but ill take signature bets with any and everyone on this fight,unless bily grahm is the ref no way n hell hatton is close 2 winning this fight
    Hatton's last southpaw was Urango and Hatton won all but one round on each of the scorecards there. But you are right in that Hatton has had problems with southpaws in the past.

    I don't think Pac is all that elusive at all and I have no doubts that Hatton hits much harder. Pac knocks people down by surprising them with his speed more than anything. Pacs opponents keep getting up for more, Hattons typically stay down. Pacs jab won't mean too much if he can't keep Hatton off and nobody has kept Hatton off before. Pac is great on the offense but when you push him back he becomes much less effective. Hatton will push him back a lot more than anyone else has, and that's why I think Hatton will win. Hatton is a formidable aggressor and I think he will hurt Manny a lot.

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    Default Re: Ricky Hatton, "Manny Pacquiao is not versatile".

    Quote Originally Posted by THE BOXING GOD View Post
    I don't remember the last time hatton ko'd a guy with one shot and the guy didn't get up was just out,him and manny both usually stop guys not KO them,but I'm not picking manny 2 knock him cold,I'm guessing referee doctor or floyd sr stops it,I doubt hatton quits,he mite be short on talent but not on heart,and manny is elusive,he just moves at the hips and not exactly his head,and against the smaller guys he wasn't as elusive cuz he wasn't that afraid of there power,but u seen against oscar he slipped dodged and moved away from a lot of punches,and hatton is so wide open easy 2 hit,pac won't be moving straight back he'll be moving side 2 side switching directions,suddenly planting and firing blistering combonations,and I seen earlier somone said all he throws is a 1-2,like u said it works! Its all he needs for this fight,but he has so much more he throws the left at so many different angles,he throws it 2 the body,he has a great right hook,and he hides his left hand so well u lose sight of it when he's rocking back and forth at the hips,then he fires it,I haven't been this sure about a fight n a long time guys,trust me
    I thought Maussa was knocked out pretty bad and Castillo had his ribs crushed. And Kostya's corner realised he wasn't responding to instructions anymore.

    You are using the Oscar fight as a barometer of things, but Oscar really wasn't himself at all. Pac was able to do those things because he was met with no resistance. I watched the fight again just now, and have to say that it was pitiful. DLH has no footwork, movement nor output. Pac was free to unload almost at will. If that's what you are reading the fight off then fair enough, but this will be as unlike that as can be IMO.

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    Default Re: Ricky Hatton, "Manny Pacquiao is not versatile".

    Quote Originally Posted by THE BOXING GOD View Post
    Maussa sucks asssss!!!!!! He got ko'd by victor ortiz in the 1st round not much of a point there,tszyu was fuking 37 years old,only decent fighter hatton has beat is juan urango period,and he aint exactly a great fighter hattons gettin his ass beat this fight point blank-castillo was washed up talk about not showing up 4 a fight,and he's taylor made 4 hatton 2 castillo can't box!!!!! And manny got stopped when he was young he's a grown man now he's gonna expose hatton for the overrated guy he is
    Well, Maussa was a belt holder and a Diaz type figure IMO, except he fought at 140 and was awkward. Kostya was old, but let's not forget that Manny's recent pinacle is taking on an ancient Oscar pulled way below his recent fighting weights.

    At the end of the day, Manny has been beating fighters beyond their prime and losing to a few others on the way too. Marquez had his way and so did Morales for 1 1/2 fights, Pac isn't unbeatable and he is beyond his comfort zone now fighting at 140.

    Hatton isn't overrated at all, he is a very decent fighter. So is Manny and it will be a great fight.

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    Default Re: Ricky Hatton, "Manny Pacquiao is not versatile".

    Difference between Kosta Tszyu and Oscar De La Hoya when Pacquiao and Hatton fought them.

    Tszyu was fighting at his natural weight.
    Oscar De La Hoya clearly wasn't.
    Tszyu 6 months earlier destroyed Sharmba Mitchell.
    Oscar De La Hoya earlier got busted up by a blown up super featherweight in Stevie Forbes.
    Tszyu was ranked top 5 pound for pound.
    Oscar De La Hoya weren't even ranked in the top 20.

    Just adding to Miles' post.

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    Default Re: Ricky Hatton, "Manny Pacquiao is not versatile".

    The body is what Manny needs to worry about it, obviously he has a very good to great chin, Hatton's on the other hand has looked shaky lately, Floyd's one thing but Lazcano's another, he shouldn't be in deep trouble against a guy like that. Hatton also can be hurt to the body but then again everybody can really which is what Manny needs to watch out for.

    its just a question of if he can bully Manny, if Manny can keep him off him and fight at his distance. We'll also see how strong Manny is.

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    Default Re: Ricky Hatton, "Manny Pacquiao is not versatile".

    Quote Originally Posted by THE BOXING GOD View Post
    Well imo marquez is better than any fighter on hattons record,as far as sum1 being n there prime and on top of there game,marquez could move up rite now and beat hatton so any arguement about pac vs marquez is irrelevant cuz marquez is twice the fighter hatton is,maussa was a beltholder Don't get me started on being a beltholder,I think juan diaz could move up and beat hatton,hatton is not as big a 140 pounder as u all make him out 2 be cuz he couldn't muscle a light punching welterweight,and he's been taken the distance quite a few time by older and smaller guys he should have steamrolled,I admit it will be exciting,hattons gonna try,I'm sure everytime he misses a punch u guess will yell like he landed a bomb,pac has been in 2 many of these superfights,his opposition is way more impressive and it will show
    Boxing God... I have agreed with you on every thread but this one. Hatton will muscle Pacquiao around the ring and win a lot of rounds. I think he could put pac on the deck. Problem is.. he's not a great finisher. Pacman may look more like Marquez in this fight, coming on strong in mid and late rounds stealing the fight back.
    I think you are underestimating Hatton. The man can box.
    "Floyd needs to inject Xylocaine into his balls to gain the courage to fight Pacquiao."

    - and I quote from some random guy on the internet

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    Default Re: Ricky Hatton, "Manny Pacquiao is not versatile".

    Quote Originally Posted by THE BOXING GOD View Post
    Well imo marquez is better than any fighter on hattons record,as far as sum1 being n there prime and on top of there game,marquez could move up rite now and beat hatton so any arguement about pac vs marquez is irrelevant cuz marquez is twice the fighter hatton is,maussa was a beltholder Don't get me started on being a beltholder,I think juan diaz could move up and beat hatton,hatton is not as big a 140 pounder as u all make him out 2 be cuz he couldn't muscle a light punching welterweight,and he's been taken the distance quite a few time by older and smaller guys he should have steamrolled,I admit it will be exciting,hattons gonna try,I'm sure everytime he misses a punch u guess will yell like he landed a bomb,pac has been in 2 many of these superfights,his opposition is way more impressive and it will show
    I think you underestimate the aspect of size in boxing. Marquez, probably more so than Manny belongs no higher than 135. And as for Juan Diaz beating Hatton. Well, again it is wishful thinking on your part rather than anything else. Hatton's style is far trickier than you seem to appreciate.

    Maybe after you delete your account you will come to appreciate it!

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