Mike Tyson was the hardest puncher ever?

[El Kabong]

No Mike Tyson wasn't the hardest puncher ever, he might not even make it into the top 10 heavyweights P4P.

Bigger than Foreman?!?!?! George was 6'4 220 in his prime and even bigger when he won the title his second go round.

Tyson's strength was his speed and combination punching...he could hit hard but not like Foreman, nowhere close

[ElTerribleMorales]

No Mike Tyson wasn't the hardest puncher ever, he might not even make it into the top 10 heavyweights P4P.

Bigger than Foreman?!?!?! George was 6'4 220 in his prime and even bigger when he won the title his second go round.

Tyson's strength was his speed and combination punching...he could hit hard but not like Foreman, nowhere close

he's in my top 10, just he's not #1

1.Foreman
2.Shavers
3.Louis
4.Frazier
5.Liston
6.Norton
7.Marciano
8.Patterson
9.Tyson
10.Tua

really not in any specific order though, just besides #1 Foreman and 9,10 are about right 2-8 can be moved around

[JazMerkin]

No Mike Tyson wasn't the hardest puncher ever, he might not even make it into the top 10 heavyweights P4P.

Bigger than Foreman?!?!?! George was 6'4 220 in his prime and even bigger when he won the title his second go round.

Tyson's strength was his speed and combination punching...he could hit hard but not like Foreman, nowhere close

he's in my top 10, just he's not #1

1.Foreman
2.Shavers
3.Louis
4.Frazier
5.Liston
6.Norton
7.Marciano
8.Patterson
9.Tyson
10.Tua

really not in any specific order though, just besides #1 Foreman and 9,10 are about right 2-8 can be moved around

I could more or less agree with that list, although there are a few other guys I might have in there instead of the bottom 5.

[ElTerribleMorales]

No Mike Tyson wasn't the hardest puncher ever, he might not even make it into the top 10 heavyweights P4P.

Bigger than Foreman?!?!?! George was 6'4 220 in his prime and even bigger when he won the title his second go round.

Tyson's strength was his speed and combination punching...he could hit hard but not like Foreman, nowhere close

he's in my top 10, just he's not #1

1.Foreman
2.Shavers
3.Louis
4.Frazier
5.Liston
6.Norton
7.Marciano
8.Patterson
9.Tyson
10.Tua

really not in any specific order though, just besides #1 Foreman and 9,10 are about right 2-8 can be moved around

I could more or less agree with that list, although there are a few other guys I might have in there instead of the bottom 5.

same here, i just did a quick 10 off the top of my head though lol

[JazMerkin]

Just curious, how often do you think a new poster creates a thread about Mike Tyson being either the best HW of all time or the hardest puncher of all time?

I've been here just under 6 months, & I'm sure this is at least the 4th I've seen in that time.

[CutMeMick]

Just curious, how often do you think a new poster creates a thread about Mike Tyson being either the best HW of all time or the hardest puncher of all time?

I've been here just under 6 months, & I'm sure this is at least the 4th I've seen in that time.

Jaz having been here for over 4 yrs.

I can't tell you how many, I've lost count. Some of my favorite repeat threads.

Naz vs. _________ <---- Insert name
What if Naz....
Mike Tyson vs. __________ <---- Insert name of any all time Heavy.
What if Ali....
What if Tyson....

[The Shadow]

Just curious, how often do you think a new poster creates a thread about Mike Tyson being either the best HW of all time or the hardest puncher of all time?

I've been here just under 6 months, & I'm sure this is at least the 4th I've seen in that time.

And depending on how long you stay here, you're sure to see a lot more. Its the typical, new member thread.
Although I generally agree with Foreman heading the crew, I'm sure with current technologies and video imaging that someone could arrive at an OBJECTIVE, RATIONAL proof of who was the hardest puncher.
However, if you took that a step further and included other weight divisions and calculated relative weight/size differentials, you would probably be in for a surprise.

[TitoFan]

No Mike Tyson wasn't the hardest puncher ever, he might not even make it into the top 10 heavyweights P4P.

Bigger than Foreman?!?!?! George was 6'4 220 in his prime and even bigger when he won the title his second go round.

Tyson's strength was his speed and combination punching...he could hit hard but not like Foreman, nowhere close

he's in my top 10, just he's not #1

1.Foreman 1. Foreman
2.Shavers 2. Shavers
3.Louis 3. Tyson
4.Frazier 4. Louis
5.Liston 5. Liston
6.Norton 6. Frazier
7.Marciano 7. Marciano
8.Patterson 8. Tua
9.Tyson 9. Ruddock
10.Tua 10. Norton

really not in any specific order though, just besides #1 Foreman and 9,10 are about right 2-8 can be moved around

Interesting list. I put my own list beside it. No way I have Patterson in the top 10, and I think Tyson is way too low at # 9. Also, there were heavier p4p punchers in other divisions, such as Wilfredo Gomez and Julian Jackson.

[Alan McDougall]

No Mike Tyson wasn't the hardest puncher ever, he might not even make it into the top 10 heavyweights P4P.

Bigger than Foreman?!?!?! George was 6'4 220 in his prime and even bigger when he won the title his second go round.

Tyson's strength was his speed and combination punching...he could hit hard but not like Foreman, nowhere close

he's in my top 10, just he's not #1

1.Foreman 1. Foreman
2.Shavers 2. Shavers
3.Louis 3. Tyson
4.Frazier 4. Louis
5.Liston 5. Liston
6.Norton 6. Frazier
7.Marciano 7. Marciano
8.Patterson 8. Tua
9.Tyson 9. Ruddock
10.Tua 10. Norton

really not in any specific order though, just besides #1 Foreman and 9,10 are about right 2-8 can be moved around

Interesting list. I put my own list beside it. No way I have Patterson in the top 10, and I think Tyson is way too low at # 9. Also, there were heavier p4p punchers in other divisions, such as Wilfredo Gomez and Julian Jackson.

I agree with the red ranking but would change it thus

1) Tyson
2) Foreman

or

1) Foreman
2) Tyson

Mohammed Ali was a much harder puncher than the likes of Patterson, after all he knocked those ugly monsters as he called them, both the awesome Liston and Foreman, why is he not in the list?

The others are debatable and that is our task in this thread

[awdleyfuturehalloffamer]

Foreman said in interviews that Ron Lyle was the hardest puncher he faced. He said Lyle's punches were so hard that they should have classified as X-rated.

[rjj tszyu]

Foreman said in interviews that Ron Lyle was the hardest puncher he faced. He said Lyle's punches were so hard that they should have classified as X-rated.

Yes I know but Foreman couldn't punch himself! Also he never fought Shavers and Frazier never connected but Foreman did say that Frazier threw a left hook and just the sound of it whizzing past his ear made him realise that he had to get him out of there fast.

[Taeth]

No Mike Tyson wasn't the hardest puncher ever, he might not even make it into the top 10 heavyweights P4P.

Bigger than Foreman?!?!?! George was 6'4 220 in his prime and even bigger when he won the title his second go round.

Tyson's strength was his speed and combination punching...he could hit hard but not like Foreman, nowhere close

I would argue this all day, Mike Tyson was 5'10 220-230 pounds and hit much faster, IMO he hit pounds per square inch probably harder than anyone(him or L. Lewis), but not necessarily in the ring because he had to reach up to land on a taller guys he couldn't get the same leverage on head shots

IMO Foreman's power wasn't that close, he's probably comparably strong, but nowhere near as fast.

[El Kabong]

Taeth, refresh my memory are we talking about the FASTER puncher or the more POWERFUL puncher

I don't discount Tyson's handspeed, infact it's because of his handspeed that he hit so hard. Look at a guy like Foreman, his opponents knew the punches were coming but he would punch through their guard and knock them out. Tyson would bob and weave and get in close to counter.....Foreman would just push you into range and let loose some bombs.

Comparing the power of Tyson and Foreman is like comparing the power of Shane Mosley and the power of Miguel Cotto....one is a little faster and sharper and the other is more deliberate but heavier

[Taeth]

The difference is Cotto got better leverage and more of his body power into punches. Foreman had a ton of power but besides Moorer I can't think of him one punching almost anyone of significance. He had a lot of power and he would pummel guys, Tyson could do that, or he could spark you out.

But if you have one guy who is 6 inches shorter and the same wieght or more with no body fat, that means that weight comes in the form of more muscle. Tyson had more muscle mass than Foreman, he had more speed than Foreman, he had better technique than Foreman, and he knocked guys out in one punch more often than Foreman.

So I say he would hit something that measures PSI harder is because
A. He's stronger
B. He's a lot faster
C. He has better technique behind his punches.

Nobody has ever gotten better leverage than Mike Tyson (who would have gotten even better leverage if it wasn't for him being so short) That why guys like Holyfield would force Tyson to throw bombs on the outside, and tie him up on the inside because from the outside Tyson was so short he needed to leap in and on the inside he was terrible if you tied him up, he needed it to be clean to get off punches, he didn't know how to work to get punches off like Hatton, Duran, or Holyfield.

[El Kabong]

His KO of Gerry Cooney wasn't a 1 punch KO of someone with significance? And bombing out Joe Frazier was bigger than ANYTHING Tyson ever did.

Foreman hurt Holyfield worse than Tyson ever did....and Foreman was like 44 when he fought Evander.