Tyson, much like Larry Holmes, didn't have many rivalries in his prime. He fought Holyfield and Lewis when he was past his best. Frank Bruno and Donovan Rudduck are the only guys I think had a good kind of even rivalry with Tyson....and it's kind of disappointing because those guys weren't all-time greats. Tyson missed out on proving himself vs some really interesting competition as well: Bowe, Briggs, Morrison, Moorer, and Foreman.
And because of Tyson's style and attitude he gets the Ali and Marciano treatment, he's either vastly overrated or underrated.
Didn't Larry Holmes as an old man beat Ray Mercer?
I called Larry old man which he was at 38 also lets not forget he not fougth in some time and had 14 days to train so i say he was past it. As for those champions you are talking about are you speaking about the title holders he beat or the real champions that beat him just to ask because during his time as champ i dont remember him beating a great champion in his prime. Tyson was in one of the weakest era of boxing when he was a champ only one weaker was Rocky but atleast he beat everyone he fought though. I just think Tyson power was not the greatest ever he knocked out alot bums but when fought Douglas and Holyfeild he him self tasted the canvas i just think because everytime he went into a big fight he lost and his power did not seem a factor in those fights like Foreman did in some of his fights vs atg but that just a thought.
Last edited by Mr140; 04-25-2009 at 05:41 PM.
This thread is about Mike at his very best before Don King messed up his life and boxing life by giving him anything he liked, including not training properly
Before Foreman fought Joe Frazier, which great boxer did he dispose of??
Rocky was not a real heavy weight, great for his size and weight, but tiny at 186 pounds compared to Mikes 220?
Mike would have killed him, there is simply no comparison between the two and how you guys could rate Rocky as a harder puncher beats me also
I would like us to imagine these great punchers fighting each other at their very peak
It would be Foreman winning?
Or it would be Tyson, winning?
Like I said before foreman was awesome against short heavy weights and I think he would have been the only one to dispense with Mike at Mikes very best
The post prison Mike Tyson was just a shadow of the real great Mike Tyson, and this still saddens and disappoints me to this very day that we were never to see the true potential of possibly the greatest heavy weight in boxier history Mike Tyson was a superlative athlete before he messed up his life, his biggest competitor was his own mind
How some of you guys can rate Joe Louis as a harder hitter than Mike, Joe almost lost to light punching Billy Con. Billy Con would have been murdered in the first round by Mike.
Admittedly all we are dong in trying our best to imagine the outcome of hypothetical great heavy weight contest brought up to our future
Alan
Alan post prison Buster Douglas beat Tyson and during his prime didnt beat anyone that was great and that was still in there prime. Tyson lost all his big fights and during his prime beat mostly bums so i dont see how he can be consider so great there no solid proof of it for me dude because him competion was weak in prime when he fought the top guys of his era he lost.
That is incorrect?
The debatable Buster Douglas fight in Japan , was due to Don King coming into the scene, Mike getting into the fight overweight and under trained, and the beginning of Mike when he began his slide into obscurity and boxing history
After Buster Douglas, the great Mike Tyson was no more. Buster did not defeat Mike, Mike did it all on his own
Alan,
Have always been equally impressed with his combination speed early career.Of course speed translates but the last thing to go they say is your natural power and as he faded in career,lost timing and ability/willingness to set up,his raw power alone was not enough in the big battles...nor some of the smaller ones.Now the Botha one punch KO ,that was a hellacious 6 inch righthand bomb.That said,He has no one to blame for his circumstances pre or post prison but himself.Some times your only as good as the company you keep.
Lol.Mick that sig is a killer,have to scroll the entire page to read![]()
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