And used to think L Holmes was a jerk BEFORE this week

[TitoFan]

I was just pulling your leg, man. LOL There are a ton of great Puerto Rican fighters. I still admire the Mexican work ethic more, though.

El Terrible's right about the per capita champions, you know. And I have the Excel spreadsheet to prove it if you'd like to see it. Regarding the "Mexican work ethic", so you're an expert on this field are you. I'd like to know how you got to THAT conclusion.

Never said I was an "expert", Titofan. Just an old-school, boxing enthusiast.
As to my conclusion on the work ethic comment: I just feel that the Mexican boxing culture is the most superior in terms of history and what's expected from their fighters. I really can't think of any 'substantial' Mexican boxers that didn't break their arses in preparation for a bout. It seems to be ingrained in their blood and culture. I can't say the same thing about Puerto Rican fighters...well, some of them anyway.
Perhaps the tables are beginning to turn, though. I'm not sure. I don't fanatically follow any and all boxing matches like I used to when I was a kid. Guess I'm getting old.
I can say definitively and without reservation that American fighters - particularly Heavy-Weights - are a lazy lot of unmotivated bums. The Klitschko's just aren't that good, but they are the best the HW division has to offer, which is actually pretty sad.

Well... the matter of work ethic is kind of a subjective topic. Mexican fighters ARE known for their dedication to the ring. But when you go to the numbers, Puerto Rico is head and shoulders above ANY country in terms of world champs on basis of population. So we must be doing SOMETHING right. As for lazy, unmotivated bums... I guess you'd find some of those in just about any country, probably even in Mexico.

[The Shadow]

Well... the matter of work ethic is kind of a subjective topic. Mexican fighters ARE known for their dedication to the ring. But when you go to the numbers, Puerto Rico is head and shoulders above ANY country in terms of world champs on basis of population. So we must be doing SOMETHING right. As for lazy, unmotivated bums... I guess you'd find some of those in just about any country, probably even in Mexico.

Well, of course. But I would be curious to see your statistics. Not that I don't believe you, I just find it interesting and something I was unaware of until you brought it to my attention.
I've never thought I would see the day when the HW division would be taken over by Eastern European Boxers. The U.S. was the Mecca for such a long time when it comes to producing top-tier HW's. Now there is not a soul on the horizon - that I can see anyway - who will bring the belts back where they belong.
However, I've given up on the HW division and find the Middleweight, Welterweight and Jr. Welterweight divisions to be the most interesting, exciting divisions.
All that being said, I will thoroughly enjoy Wladdy punishing that loud mouth punk Haye. I just hope he keeps him in the ring long enough to give him the thorough spanking that he has coming to him.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Well... the matter of work ethic is kind of a subjective topic. Mexican fighters ARE known for their dedication to the ring. But when you go to the numbers, Puerto Rico is head and shoulders above ANY country in terms of world champs on basis of population. So we must be doing SOMETHING right. As for lazy, unmotivated bums... I guess you'd find some of those in just about any country, probably even in Mexico.

Well, of course. But I would be curious to see your statistics. Not that I don't believe you, I just find it interesting and something I was unaware of until you brought it to my attention.
I've never thought I would see the day when the HW division would be taken over by Eastern European Boxers. The U.S. was the Mecca for such a long time when it comes to producing top-tier HW's. Now there is not a soul on the horizon - that I can see anyway - who will bring the belts back where they belong.
However, I've given up on the HW division and find the Middleweight, Welterweight and Jr. Welterweight divisions to be the most interesting, exciting divisions.
All that being said, I will thoroughly enjoy Wladdy punishing that loud mouth punk Haye. I just hope he keeps him in the ring long enough to give him the thorough spanking that he has coming to him.

i kinda get where you're coming from, but boxing history and the respect for the sport is strong in both PR and Mexico, a lot is expected from fighters from both, but i'd agree that due to economic reasons, Mexican fighters from poorer areas of the country basically are given the choice, school or boxing, the ones that choose boxing have to dedicate their entire life to the sport cause it's all they know and only way they'll be making a living, it reminds me of a documentary i saw on Thai Kickboxing, the main focus was on a 13 year old kid, who was training for his professional debut, and it was nothing out of the norm, meaning he was no phenom or anything to be starting so young, just that it's the usual age that they begin a professional career, he had to choose fighting over school to be able to fully dedicate himself to the sport