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    Default Re: Come on Carl Froch haters

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    I give him credit for winning, but(im not hating now ) his defence is god damn awful, when he throws the left jab his right hand just drops, he's so open it's scary, if Taylor, not the biggest hitting middleweight can drop him badly I think someone like Kessler would ko him.
    I don't know why he keeps his hands so low he doesn't have the reflexs to get out of the way of punches, he should watch the video of that fight realise how bad defencivly he is and work on it, if he does that i'd give him a good chance against anyone in the division.
    I agree he's so open I think he has a hard time beating Kessler with out making some serious adjustments to his game but he went down after already being rattled from taking 3-4 heavy shots from Taylor right on his chin and then a left hook/right hook combination... right on his chin.

    Other than looking confused as fuck (first time he's ever been down) you could see his eyes were 100% there and his legs were barely affected. Don't think his chin or how hard Taylor can hit are the issue. Just Carls lack of defence.

    But yeah, however good his chin is Kessler hits hard enough and is accurate and big enough to floor anybody if he manages to hit them so Froch really needs to work on developing some form of guard.
    i give Froch credit for the win, he won without any controversy at all, but no one can deny the fact that Taylor did make stupid mistakes such as not using his jab for the last 5 rounds, he stayed to stationary, and didn't prepare properly cause his stamina was utter shit, but like i said, that's not Froch's problem, he took advantage of his biggest opportunity Taylor didn't, props to Froch, i'm no hater, i just don't think that Froch is #1 at 168

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    Default Re: Come on Carl Froch haters

    And this was'nt froch at his best he made plenty of mistakes he doesnt normally make i think the occasion got to him abit he admitted it himself.

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    Default Re: Come on Carl Froch haters

    Which fight was Froch at his best?

    His best opponent was a slighly worse for wear middle weight, he struggled and got dropped, I dont think its going to get any better for Froch at the ripe old age of 31, his physical prime is behind him, hges making big mistakes in his style of fighting, an even bigger mistake would be to tempt Calzaghe out

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    Default Re: Come on Carl Froch haters

    I don't like him but I'll give him way more credit than Calzaghe for going out there on his very first defence against a live former world champion and handling his business.

    How long did we have to wait for Calzaghe to fight a live body? That ended up being Robin Reid who many feel won that fight and then Jeff Lacy who was incidently also schooled by Taylor.

    I remember Froch saying that he had the reflexes to get away with the hands low style - He should swallow his pride and admit he doesn't or else he's finished.

    Also, I think he could probably give Taylor a rematch? I'm sure Taylor would like to right the wrong but he has a stupid habit of gassing and getting knocked out.

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    Default Re: Come on Carl Froch haters

    I'm not a hater. I'm glad he won. I just dont see whats with the hype. He's showed heart in his fights, big wow. When Froch steps it up he's gonna get outclassed. He was only 3 minutes away this time.

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    Default Re: Come on Carl Froch haters

    froch come good in the end, he def needs to work on his defence , for all his flaws tho he makes up for his with his heart and balls, travelling to taylors backyard for his first defence is unheard of nowadays especially for £450.000 he said he just wants to fight the best out there,i take my hat off to him for that,alot of fighters could take a leaf out of frochs book in that sense, hes a great tv fighter,cant ever see him being in a bad fight

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    Default Re: Come on Carl Froch haters

    taylor did make him look very beatable tho

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    Default Re: Come on Carl Froch haters

    Yes he looked bad for a few rounds and got caught heavy at times but this was Jermain Taylor former Undisputed middleweight world champ who beat Hopkins twice drew with Winky wright battered William Joppy. If Froch went to the States a 10 defence world champ had been world level for 5 year then fair enough but he has'nt he has just broke into the World stage and fought a war to win the title against a young unbeaten hungry fighter in Pascall then in his 1st defence goes out to the states fights a top draw fighter in taylor who was number 1 contender yes he looked shabby for a few rounds but perhaps the occasion got to him abit but he came back and stopped Taylor in great fashion. Some fighters have safe defence after safe defence then when they cross the pond fight safe fights against old men who are past there best only to get dropped both times in first round struggle to win 1 over 12 and beat other handy but still full 12. I like carl Froch because he is willing to take risks.

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