Come on Carl Froch haters

[paddy448]

taylor did make him look very beatable tho

[Tysonbruno]

Yes he looked bad for a few rounds and got caught heavy at times but this was Jermain Taylor former Undisputed middleweight world champ who beat Hopkins twice drew with Winky wright battered William Joppy. If Froch went to the States a 10 defence world champ had been world level for 5 year then fair enough but he has'nt he has just broke into the World stage and fought a war to win the title against a young unbeaten hungry fighter in Pascall then in his 1st defence goes out to the states fights a top draw fighter in taylor who was number 1 contender yes he looked shabby for a few rounds but perhaps the occasion got to him abit but he came back and stopped Taylor in great fashion. Some fighters have safe defence after safe defence then when they cross the pond fight safe fights against old men who are past there best only to get dropped both times in first round struggle to win 1 over 12 and beat other handy but still full 12. I like carl Froch because he is willing to take risks.

[DaxxKahn]

I am not a hater of Froch but he certainly is not what I would call a great champion, I have seen plenty of Journeymen do the same thing he did on Saturday and they are not great Journeyman, Froch was battered and at time looked outright embaressing,

He has heart no denying that and you can not take it away from him but Saturday was more Taylor dropping the ball then Froch doing anything more then surviving until the gas ran out

Battle of Stamina went to Froch but what happens when guys like Andrade, Kessler, Bute etc who don't wilt from stamina and hit much harder, can absorb anything Froch throws?

[Tysonbruno]

What makes Andrade,kessler and Bute better than Taylor who has only lost to Kelly Pavlik ?

[DaxxKahn]

What makes Andrade,kessler and Bute better than Taylor who has only lost to Kelly Pavlik ?

If I need to break it down for you...

Kessler- If I need to explain this one then you have not seen him fight

Bute- Would outwork Froch, hits harder then Taylor, would not allow himself to just stand there and take the shots Taylor did (The reason Taylor was KO'd if he held he would not have been stopped), He throws more punches, His defense is better...and he does everything else in the ring better then Froch

Andrade- Come forward no step backwards, hardest hitter of the lot, does not tire easily, he is a fantastic inside fighter

Froch has horrible defense, these guys hit harder then Taylor, They havwe better stamina, Take better shots, they fight rougher, they have a killer instinct, better finishers,

I don't even know why I am explaining this to you

You are either being a wise ass or you knowledge of the sport is less then I give you credit for

[Tysonbruno]

What makes Andrade,kessler and Bute better than Taylor who has only lost to Kelly Pavlik ?

If I need to break it down for you...

Kessler- If I need to explain this one then you have not seen him fight

Bute- Would outwork Froch, hits harder then Taylor, would not allow himself to just stand there and take the shots Taylor did (The reason Taylor was KO'd if he held he would not have been stopped), He throws more punches, His defense is better...and he does everything else in the ring better then Froch

Andrade- Come forward no step backwards, hardest hitter of the lot, does not tire easily, he is a fantastic inside fighter

Froch has horrible defense, these guys hit harder then Taylor, They havwe better stamina, Take better shots, they fight rougher, they have a killer instinct, better finishers,

I don't even know why I am explaining this to you

You are either being a wise ass or you knowledge of the sport is less then I give you credit for

I know everything you have said but it just makes me laugh how Taylor is held in little regard bearing in mind who he has beaten and has fought some good guys and has only been beaten by Pavlik who many consider a god well at least till his ASS whooping to Hopkins who Taylor beat twice in better style than Joe Calzaghe. So perhaps yes i was just being abit mardy really

[DaxxKahn]

What makes Andrade,kessler and Bute better than Taylor who has only lost to Kelly Pavlik ?

If I need to break it down for you...

Kessler- If I need to explain this one then you have not seen him fight

Bute- Would outwork Froch, hits harder then Taylor, would not allow himself to just stand there and take the shots Taylor did (The reason Taylor was KO'd if he held he would not have been stopped), He throws more punches, His defense is better...and he does everything else in the ring better then Froch

Andrade- Come forward no step backwards, hardest hitter of the lot, does not tire easily, he is a fantastic inside fighter

Froch has horrible defense, these guys hit harder then Taylor, They havwe better stamina, Take better shots, they fight rougher, they have a killer instinct, better finishers,

I don't even know why I am explaining this to you

You are either being a wise ass or you knowledge of the sport is less then I give you credit for

I know everything you have said but it just makes me laugh how Taylor is held in little regard bearing in mind who he has beaten and has fought some good guys and has only been beaten by Pavlik who many consider a god well at least till his ASS whooping to Hopkins who Taylor beat twice in better style than Joe Calzaghe. So perhaps yes i was just being abit mardy really

In all honesty mate when was the last time Taylor showed any type of real desire outside of saturday night?

Self admittingly he lost his hunger and took stuff for granted his own words not mine

His first 2 defenses were against 154lb powder puff hitters and he lost the Spinks fight in the opinion of many, he should have walked all over Spinks and Ouma.

I am not saying Taylor is a bad fighter I would be an idiot to do so, he is world class for certain. but he is not the fighter he wasx before winning the belts

[Pugilistic]

If Froch wasn't such a tosser i would give him praise. He did good to end the fight with a bang but overall his performance wasn't that good.

You have criticized Calzaghe in the past for being arrogant and cocky but Froch is far worse imo.

I don't think he will but i would love for Calzaghe to come out of retirement just to give froch a one sided schooling and a reality check.

If not Joe maybe Hopkins could do it for me instead.

[The PocketRocket]

I'm not a hater and fair play to Froch for the win - but I believe Kessler would do a number on him.