Carl Froch Is Not That Good.

[clintuk]

I'm not sure anyone thinks that Carl Froch looked technically amazing the other night, no matter who's side you're on. But in my opinion what he lacks in technique he certainly makes up for in determination and heart, and that can take you a long way.

But I agree, with his left arm down like that it irritates the crap out of me and I hope he starts to adjust that before his next fight. Not that it stopped him from losing the other night, or his other 24, but easily could have.

Wait til' after his next fight to see how he really performs on the world stage. He could get battered from rope to rope or he could just cause another upset.

[ukansodoff]

I think if your capable of goin 12 rounds with Taylor win any rounds at all, get up from 1 of his better shots and knock him out you are desereved to be amongst the divisions top men.

But heart and chin aside if what we saw at that he has to offer at this level i see him as the weakest of the bunch and if anybody fancys clearin up the division is surely aint guna be him.

I think the level of ability Taylor has was a suprise to him its a big step from what hes fought to the big time and he only just stretched to it.

Hes got a decent jab and could use it more and work behind it, he also has 2 hands he could put near his face now and again while under attack instead of tryin to duck and slip everything. Basics really.

But at 31 and havin fought his way and winning so many fights im not sure he can raise his game any more than that, especially seein as he couldnt do it against Taylor when his trainer was beggin him to and he really needed to. I feel if hes guna accomplish more things like that hes guna have to do it with the chin and heart.

However i do think Taylor is the fastest of the top boys and Froch suited him maybe he will cope better against the others.

I know im goin on a bit.

Calzaghe!!!!! I dont wana here it Carl. I dont think hed stand a chance unless Joe has faded big time since retirement and Kessler is the main man in this division as far as im concerned and hed deal with anybody, especially Froch.

[Kev]

I think if your capable of goin 12 rounds with Taylor win any rounds at all, get up from 1 of his better shots and knock him out you are desereved to be amongst the divisions top men.

But heart and chin aside if what we saw at that he has to offer at this level i see him as the weakest of the bunch and if anybody fancys clearin up the division is surely aint guna be him.

I think the level of ability Taylor has was a suprise to him its a big step from what hes fought to the big time and he only just stretched to it.

Hes got a decent jab and could use it more and work behind it, he also has 2 hands he could put near his face now and again while under attack instead of tryin to duck and slip everything. Basics really.

But at 31 and havin fought his way and winning so many fights im not sure he can raise his game any more than that, especially seein as he couldnt do it against Taylor when his trainer was beggin him to and he really needed to. I feel if hes guna accomplish more things like that hes guna have to do it with the chin and heart.

However i do think Taylor is the fastest of the top boys and Froch suited him maybe he will cope better against the others.

I know im goin on a bit.

Calzaghe!!!!! I dont wana here it Carl. I dont think hed stand a chance unless Joe has faded big time since retirement and Kessler is the main man in this division as far as im concerned and hed deal with anybody, especially Froch.

Well out of interest what does Andrade offer aside from heart, power and chin?

And none of the top fighters in the 168 lb division have beaten a top quality boxer like Jermain Taylor, in fact Kessler is the only fighter there who has fought someone as good as Taylor in Joe Calzaghe and he lost.

Bute, Andrade, Green, Mundine, Miranda, none of them have beaten an opponent of the calibre of Jermain Taylor or even fought one.

Taylor is faster and slicker than all of that lot and obviously his speed and technique and boxing ability gave Carl problems early becuase it was a massive step up in class for him.

But there is nobody else at 168 who has the pure boxing ability and speed of Jermain Taylor so I can't see Froch getting outboxed like that again.

In my opinion he walks through Lucian Bute, he completely outboxes Andrade, and takes Miranda apart inside the distance.

The two already at the top that will give him the most problems are Kessler (clearly the divisions best and Mundine because of his awkward style)

We don't yet know how good Ward and Dirrell may be so I'm not mentioning them yet.

But I don't get why just because Froch was outboxed for 5 rounds by the best boxer in the weight class before coming back to ko him, you guys think he'll be outboxed by everybody else.

If Taylor's boxing ability wasn't too much for Froch to handle then none of the others will be either.

In my mind he's clearly number 2 behind Mikkell Kessler, and he has the best name on his resume.

Bute almost got ktfo by Andrade and trust me, if Andrade and Froch ever get in the ring, you'll see Andrade isn't on Froch's level.

[Kel]

Not so good technically I agree but he has many other tools

Heart
Good power
Good stamina
Good chin
Determination

These have all worked pretty well for him so far. I bet there are a LOT of better skilled fighters that cannot match Froch on many of those strengths, does that make Froch the better fighter? Or is the guy with better skills the better fighter?

I had him way behind on the cards, does not matter though, Froch had better stamina than Taylor and Taylor could not continue to fight his fight and Froch knocked him out. End of.