Roach V's Mayweather snr

[Gandalf]

Roach has lost the fooking plot IMO. He's been spouting so much off the wall shit that I think they must have spiked his meds or something. The guy is a serious raver.

Since the DLH fight he has talked incessantly and his head has been expanding alarmingly. After Manny has been stopped, Mayweather snr should walk up to Roach and stab him in the head with a pin. I'm sure the head will pop and a lot of built up shit will be released in a yucky pile on the ring canvas. The good thing is that Roach might have learned a lesson and his head might just shrink back to regular size.

[Nameless]

Roach has lost the fooking plot IMO. He's been spouting so much off the wall shit that I think they must have spiked his meds or something. The guy is a serious raver.

Since the DLH fight he has talked incessantly and his head has been expanding alarmingly. After Manny has been stopped, Mayweather snr should walk up to Roach and stab him in the head with a pin. I'm sure the head will pop and a lot of built up shit will be released in a yucky pile on the ring canvas. The good thing is that Roach might have learned a lesson and his head might just shrink back to regular size.

Well, if you look the fact straight it didn't happen like that at all: Mayweather started to bullshit when DLH picked Roach over him, with his famous poem with the line "Now that DLH picked Roach, he went from a limo to a coach", Roach didn't say nothing, he did his job. After THAT, DLH blamed Roach saying he wasn't a good coach, that his gameplan was wrong and he reverted to Nacho for his fight against Pacman. Being insulted, Roach normally fired back saying DLH couldn't put the trigger and would be stop around the 10th... that's exactly what happened. Meanwhile, Mayweather SR CALLED HIM big time the "joke coach Roach" and that he, Mayweather, was the best trainer in the business. Having proved nothing compared to Roach, Roach fired back a bit (which I would have done as well) But in the end, it's not Roach's ego which is on the line, it's Mayweather who did act like an angry six years old child bursting his anger all over the floor and if you ask me, he's the one who should deflate his ego, after all he's the self proclaimed "best trainer of all time"

[Gandalf]

Roach has lost the fooking plot IMO. He's been spouting so much off the wall shit that I think they must have spiked his meds or something. The guy is a serious raver.

Since the DLH fight he has talked incessantly and his head has been expanding alarmingly. After Manny has been stopped, Mayweather snr should walk up to Roach and stab him in the head with a pin. I'm sure the head will pop and a lot of built up shit will be released in a yucky pile on the ring canvas. The good thing is that Roach might have learned a lesson and his head might just shrink back to regular size.

Well, if you look the fact straight it didn't happen like that at all: Mayweather started to bullshit when DLH picked Roach over him, with his famous poem with the line "Now that DLH picked Roach, he went from a limo to a coach", Roach didn't say nothing, he did his job. After THAT, DLH blamed Roach saying he wasn't a good coach, that his gameplan was wrong and he reverted to Nacho for his fight against Pacman. Being insulted, Roach normally fired back saying DLH couldn't put the trigger and would be stop around the 10th... that's exactly what happened. Meanwhile, Mayweather SR CALLED HIM big time the "joke coach Roach" and that he, Mayweather, was the best trainer in the business. Having proved nothing compared to Roach, Roach fired back a bit (which I would have done as well) But in the end, it's not Roach's ego which is on the line, it's Mayweather who did act like an angry six years old child bursting his anger all over the floor and if you ask me, he's the one who should deflate his ego, after all he's the self proclaimed "best trainer of all time"

I would say both ego's are on the line actually. I'm only going back as far as the time that this fight was signed, but it's my perception that Roach has been the one going beyond the call of duty moreso than Mayweather. Mayweather has actually come across as fairly likeable in a weird kind of way, he's quite funny. Roach says his thing and I don't detect much humour. So I guess he must be serious.

Roach needs bringing down IMO, and this weekend is as good a time as any. Roach is overrated. He let Toney fight with boobies, allowed Tyson not to train properly, thought Hopkins was good enough to beat Calzaghe, and now sees Khan as a serious boxer. Roach has a good fighter in Manny, but I leave it at that. And hopefully that comes to an end this weekend!

[Chino]

To be fair Oscay never got a chance to get off, Pacquiao was too quick to get in and out

Pac looked fast against him because Oscar simply didn't do anything. He didn't even look like he was trying at all: no jab, no straights, no hooks, no uppercuts, no legs, no nothing. When he lost vs Mosley and Hopkins, different story. Oscar was TRYING offering all his arsenal. Didn't look that bad loosing. Even with his loss against Hopkins I still think he looked ok offering all he had until he got knocked down. Too bad for him.

Floyd is overall more skilled but he didn't have the opposition Pacman had till now AND to measure the skills that Roach gives to his boxers and the skills Mayweather Sr gives, you have to measure it with let's say their top 10 boxers respectively, not only one, especially as Mayweather has been trained mostly by his uncles in his most significants matches

Good points. I think Pac has faced better opposition. But when it comes to overall skills, Mayweather hands down. Like I have said before, he is yet to show any clear weakness/flaw. Maybe that weakness/flaw is called Pac . Wouldn't that make it a good line to promote their fight if they ever face each other?

[DatsiK]

Well I think Mayweather would fukk roach up over 12 rounds. Unless he has one of his coughing fits then Roach will dominate...

I think Manny would of been a great fighter whoever he chose as his trainer.. I don't think roach is a better trainer in terms of teaching actual boxing, but as a emotional figure Roach has done so much for pac man and I think you have to respect that.

[Big Dick Whittington]

Head movement and foot movement ? WTF? It's actually bollocks you cant punch whilst moving your feet you can pivot and move into punches but you feet don't move!

I hear alot of trainers say move your feet move your head but it effectivly means nothing , it's all part of one smooth movement where the feet go the legs go and where the legs go the torso goes and if your feet are moving ' then you don't get purchase and that;s why you spend hours and hours in the gym refining movment , it's cliched nonsense to suggest thet you move anything indepentdently .

Great fighters can change levels but there's no magic formula and no trainer than can teach a a fighters thats been fighting 20 years how to suddenly change technique you can plan a certain strategy and work the pands do new excercise but technique and bad habbits stay .

Another thing , hands up and chin down ? Name a great fighter that fought effectively like that .
It's the biggest cliche in boxing certain fighters do and then fade later on in fights because it's the quickest way to fatigue a fighter across the shoulders !


did duran or Leonard fight like that ? they stayed at distance and trusted their natural instincts ,paitence ,eyesight,poise,touch !

some of you posting on here make me fooking laugh .