IF Hatton beats Pacqauio does that mean he will be P4P #1?

[Taeth]

No. If Hatton beats Pac, then JMM is #1 p4p by default. JMM will be campaigning at 140 division pretty soon. And Hatton will gonna have to beat him too in order to get the #1 p4p status.

No and No....

Hatton beats Pacquiao and it just proves he is undefeated at 140... so you can crown him king at 140. Hatton will have bragging rights that he beat the #1 P4P ranked fighter, but that's it!

Marquez should have to earn the P4P #1. It not be a given.... IMO, Marquez would still has to beat Pacquaio or Hatton to take over the P4P slot.

you mean the same way that Pacquiao was basically handed the P4P #1 spot just for beating David Diaz since Mayweather had retired , IMO Marquez has enough credentials to argue to be #1 right now, a Pacquiao loss would only solidify that claim

It wasn't because Pacquiao beat David Diaz that he was p4p #1, he had already beaten Marquez thus was above him, then as soon as Mayweather retired Pacman became p4p king.

[ElTerribleMorales]

No and No....

Hatton beats Pacquiao and it just proves he is undefeated at 140... so you can crown him king at 140. Hatton will have bragging rights that he beat the #1 P4P ranked fighter, but that's it!

Marquez should have to earn the P4P #1. It not be a given.... IMO, Marquez would still has to beat Pacquaio or Hatton to take over the P4P slot.

you mean the same way that Pacquiao was basically handed the P4P #1 spot just for beating David Diaz since Mayweather had retired , IMO Marquez has enough credentials to argue to be #1 right now, a Pacquiao loss would only solidify that claim

It wasn't because Pacquiao beat David Diaz that he was p4p #1, he had already beaten Marquez thus was above him, then as soon as Mayweather retired Pacman became p4p king.

Manny was put as #1 as soon as Mayweather retired, and even at that point people were arguing that Calzaghe should be given the position, JMM's last 2 wins have been bigger than Pacquiao's last to wins, and how can anyone seriously argue that Manny should still be #1 if he loses to Hatton?

[Taeth]

That's not what we are arguing, and how are JMM last two wins bigger? Joel Casamayor was almost KO'ed by Katsidis and barely beat that bum before he gave JMM one hell of a fight before getting stopped, Once again Juan Diaz lost to Nate Campbell, and he was giving Marquez all he could handle for most of their fight and hurt Juan despite having almost no power. No way are those wins bigger than the annihilation of both David Diaz and Oscar Dela Hoya. Say what you want about Dela Hoya but Casamayor was never as good p4p as Oscar and just as washed up if not moreso, Casamayor hasn't looked very good in years, while Pacquiao was the first person to make Oscar look bad.

If Pacquiao loses he definitely loses the throne to JMM who is right behind him. I am just saying right now he undoubtebly deserves it. Also IMO Hopkins-Calzaghe was more in favor of hopkins than Pacman-JMM II was in favor of JMM, and more outsiders saw it that way as well.

[TitoFan]

So it's official. Noone that has posted here has claimed that Hatton should be # 1 p4p should he stop Pacquiao. My.... that IS refreshing. Carry on, gentlemen.

[ElTerribleMorales]

That's not what we are arguing, and how are JMM last two wins bigger? Joel Casamayor was almost KO'ed by Katsidis and barely beat that bum before he gave JMM one hell of a fight before getting stopped, Once again Juan Diaz lost to Nate Campbell, and he was giving Marquez all he could handle for most of their fight and hurt Juan despite having almost no power. No way are those wins bigger than the annihilation of both David Diaz and Oscar Dela Hoya. Say what you want about Dela Hoya but Casamayor was never as good p4p as Oscar and just as washed up if not moreso, Casamayor hasn't looked very good in years, while Pacquiao was the first person to make Oscar look bad.

If Pacquiao loses he definitely loses the throne to JMM who is right behind him. I am just saying right now he undoubtebly deserves it. Also IMO Hopkins-Calzaghe was more in favor of hopkins than Pacman-JMM II was in favor of JMM, and more outsiders saw it that way as well.

David Diaz was beaten (although given the gift of the decision) by an old and shot Erik Morales, and De La Hoya was shot and weight drained, Diaz only lost to Campbell who had just beaten Funeka, and Casamayor had just KO'd Katsidis who is still considered a top 10 player at 135, so yea, still sounds like JMM's last two wins are bigger than Pac's sorry bud

[Taeth]

Oscar had foughten a close fight with Mayweather, and beat Steve Forbes handily. His performance against Forbes showed he was still on a higher level than old Casamayor or overrated juan Diaz are capable of, and PAcquiao kicked the shit out of them, while Juan Manuel Marquez did beat them, but both fights were really competitive throughout almost the whole thing.

Its not just who you beat, but how you beat them, and who is supposed to win, JMM was suppose to beat Juan Diaz and Casamayor, Pacquiao wasn't suppose to beat Oscar De La Hoya, but he destroyed him.

[The Congressman]

Oscar had foughten a close fight with Mayweather, and beat Steve Forbes handily. His performance against Forbes showed he was still on a higher level than old Casamayor or overrated juan Diaz are capable of, and PAcquiao kicked the shit out of them, while Juan Manuel Marquez did beat them, but both fights were really competitive throughout almost the whole thing.

Its not just who you beat, but how you beat them, and who is supposed to win, JMM was suppose to beat Juan Diaz and Casamayor, Pacquiao wasn't suppose to beat Oscar De La Hoya, but he destroyed him.

[Taeth]

Also you keep on hating on David Diaz, but didn't he beat that Santa Cruz who by all accounts got robbed against Casamayor?