Quote Originally Posted by Chino View Post
Mayweather is a very good teacher though but he never shaped as many world champions as Roach and he's often mostly talk
Well, he CREATED a boxer who is yet to show a clear weakness/flaw: Floyd Mayweather Jr. So he's not THAT bad really.
when he says for example "PAcquiao has no head movement" and such, it's obvious that it ain't the case, just a look at Pacquiao against JMM or DLH and you can see that he looks like a booble head
Against JMM maybe, let's take out ODLH from the picture since he didn't test Pac AT ALL. I think Pac moves OK when it comes to defense. I think Mayweather did a better job teaching Floyd how to move his head and end up clean in his fights with not even a scratch compared to what Pac has learned that makes him finish fights with bruises, cuts, blood, swollen eyes, etc. We can't forget that a fighter will still implement what he learned or not. I'll say most has to do with the boxer and a smaller percentage to the trainers, nutritionists, etc.
I prefer Roach's style of giving advices and using his minute wisely instead of the Mayweather strange advices and speech like: "yeahhhhh mannnnnnn commmme onnnn mannnn, ya knoowww yaaa mann, give it more try mannn, work more, ya know what I'm sayiinnn" kind of riddles
I agree. I rather have someone telling me what to do even if I am winning. I have seen trainers tell their guy "Yeah! You're totally winning! Alright! See?! I told you! You will be champ!..." no no no, I want to hear my trainer telling me what I should keep doing and all.
I agree mostly with everything but you cannot compare PAcquiao to Floyd Jr, they have both different styles, Floyd is overall more skilled but he didn't have the opposition Pacman had till now AND to measure the skills that Roach gives to his boxers and the skills Mayweather Sr gives, you have to measure it with let's say their top 10 boxers respectively, not only one, especially as Mayweather has been trained mostly by his uncles in his most significants matches.