Another PR vs RP

[Galaxy]

After Calderon's done toying with Mayol I hope he targets Viloria, Segura or Sosa... a fight with Gonzalez would be outstanding, as would fights with Garcia, Nietes or Sithsamerchai if they moved up. Calderon has to only fight big fights from here if he wants to be a great!

[TitoFan]

After Calderon's done toying with Mayol I hope he targets Viloria, Segura or Sosa... a fight with Gonzalez would be outstanding, as would fights with Garcia, Nietes or Sithsamerchai if they moved up. Calderon has to only fight big fights from here if he wants to be a great!

"IF he wants to be a great"? WTF are you talking about? He's already in the top 10 p4p list. He went up in weight and beat the champ at the higher division (Hugo Cazares), not once, but twice. He's undefeated, and has not come close to being defeated. He's considered one of the better pure boxers in the world today. What do you mean IF he wants to be a great? ?

[Galaxy]

After Calderon's done toying with Mayol I hope he targets Viloria, Segura or Sosa... a fight with Gonzalez would be outstanding, as would fights with Garcia, Nietes or Sithsamerchai if they moved up. Calderon has to only fight big fights from here if he wants to be a great!

"IF he wants to be a great"? WTF are you talking about? He's already in the top 10 p4p list. He went up in weight and beat the champ at the higher division (Hugo Cazares), not once, but twice. He's undefeated, and has not come close to being defeated. He's considered one of the better pure boxers in the world today. What do you mean IF he wants to be a great? ?

I'm saying that he ain't a great yet & his entrance into the HOF isn't assured yet!

He never fought the top guy at 105, he always fought opponents once they had already been beaten... Cardenas, Leyva, Reyes, Bustos. Never fought Kyowa.

He has come close to being defeated: the 1st Cazares fight, Ronald Barrera!

Does anyone think he could have beaten Lopez? Don't think so!

Don't get me wrong Calderon along with Darchinyan are my top fav fighters right now, but his record is nothing outstanding! Cazares is the only fighter even remotely close to great that he has fought.

Calderon is the best boxer in the business right now, he is a pound for pound fighter but his record is not HOF stuff!

Great fighters are defind by the opposition they face & how they faired. Cazares is Calderons best victory but the 1st was close (people on here thought Cazares won) & he was put down & the second ended prematurely...

Calderon is very good but he needs to do more if he wants to be an all time great!

[ElTerribleMorales]

After Calderon's done toying with Mayol I hope he targets Viloria, Segura or Sosa... a fight with Gonzalez would be outstanding, as would fights with Garcia, Nietes or Sithsamerchai if they moved up. Calderon has to only fight big fights from here if he wants to be a great!

"IF he wants to be a great"? WTF are you talking about? He's already in the top 10 p4p list. He went up in weight and beat the champ at the higher division (Hugo Cazares), not once, but twice. He's undefeated, and has not come close to being defeated. He's considered one of the better pure boxers in the world today. What do you mean IF he wants to be a great? ?

he's beaten everyone put ahead of him CLEARLY and also he's no spring chicken, the man is 34 yrs old, something you don't see too often at that weight, there are rumors that he might move up in weight by the end of the year

[Galaxy]

After Calderon's done toying with Mayol I hope he targets Viloria, Segura or Sosa... a fight with Gonzalez would be outstanding, as would fights with Garcia, Nietes or Sithsamerchai if they moved up. Calderon has to only fight big fights from here if he wants to be a great!

"IF he wants to be a great"? WTF are you talking about? He's already in the top 10 p4p list. He went up in weight and beat the champ at the higher division (Hugo Cazares), not once, but twice. He's undefeated, and has not come close to being defeated. He's considered one of the better pure boxers in the world today. What do you mean IF he wants to be a great? ?

he's beaten everyone put ahead of him CLEARLY and also he's no spring chicken, the man is 34 yrs old, something you don't see too often at that weight, there are rumors that he might move up in weight by the end of the year

Not clearly (see my previous post Barrera & Cazares), never fought the top guy at 105. Cazares is the best he's done & I'm sorry but one opponent is not good enough for HOF imo

[josef4334]

ive seen mayol fight once or twice.. this fight will depend on where calderon is at his career.. if he has started to descend from the top then it will be a good shot for mayol.. otherwise.. L #3 for mayol..

[ElTerribleMorales]

"IF he wants to be a great"? WTF are you talking about? He's already in the top 10 p4p list. He went up in weight and beat the champ at the higher division (Hugo Cazares), not once, but twice. He's undefeated, and has not come close to being defeated. He's considered one of the better pure boxers in the world today. What do you mean IF he wants to be a great? ?

he's beaten everyone put ahead of him CLEARLY and also he's no spring chicken, the man is 34 yrs old, something you don't see too often at that weight, there are rumors that he might move up in weight by the end of the year

Not clearly (see my previous post Barrera & Cazares), never fought the top guy at 105. Cazares is the best he's done & I'm sorry but one opponent is not good enough for HOF imo

IMO he beat Barrera and by a good margin, Cazares I was a bit close cause of the KD, but Cazares II was all Calderon, he easily outboxed him, and back to the Barrera fight, don't forget that he went to Barrera's backyard to give the fight

[TitoFan]

he's beaten everyone put ahead of him CLEARLY and also he's no spring chicken, the man is 34 yrs old, something you don't see too often at that weight, there are rumors that he might move up in weight by the end of the year

Not clearly (see my previous post Barrera & Cazares), never fought the top guy at 105. Cazares is the best he's done & I'm sorry but one opponent is not good enough for HOF imo

IMO he beat Barrera and by a good margin, Cazares I was a bit close cause of the KD, but Cazares II was all Calderon, he easily outboxed him, and back to the Barrera fight, don't forget that he went to Barrera's backyard to give the fight

The thing about Cazares is... not only did Ivan fight the champ at a higher weight and beat him, but Cazares is the much bigger man. At 105, a jump in division tends to be more noticeable than at 160 or 168. I saw Calderon-Cazares II in person, and it was astounding to see how much bigger Cazares was. IMO, Ivan deserves all the credit in the world for those wins.

[Galaxy]

Not clearly (see my previous post Barrera & Cazares), never fought the top guy at 105. Cazares is the best he's done & I'm sorry but one opponent is not good enough for HOF imo

IMO he beat Barrera and by a good margin, Cazares I was a bit close cause of the KD, but Cazares II was all Calderon, he easily outboxed him, and back to the Barrera fight, don't forget that he went to Barrera's backyard to give the fight

The thing about Cazares is... not only did Ivan fight the champ at a higher weight and beat him, but Cazares is the much bigger man. At 105, a jump in division tends to be more noticeable than at 160 or 168. I saw Calderon-Cazares II in person, and it was astounding to see how much bigger Cazares was. IMO, Ivan deserves all the credit in the world for those wins.

Totally agree & as I said he's one of my favorite guys, but some people thought he lost the 1st Cazares clash & the 2nd although Calderon boxed brilliantly was inconclusive.

As I said in an earlier post Cazares is the best he's fought (one many thought he lost, the other inconclusive) imo his record is not HOF worthy yet as beating one top fighter (the only guy at the top of a division that Calderon has fought) is not enough, but put a win over Viloria & Gonzalez on there & that changes!