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    Default Re: "Pretty Boy" vs JMM is done and will be officially announced tomorrow

    the real p4p has returned. awesome

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    Default Re: "Pretty Boy" vs JMM is done and will be officially announced tomorrow

    MArquez does not belong anywhere north of 135.

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    Default Re: "Pretty Boy" vs JMM is done and will be officially announced tomorrow

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    MArquez does not belong anywhere north of 135.
    Neither did Mayweather, he did it to fight Judah and Tszyu and Gatti and De La HOya.

    I see Mayweather winning with the jab, he has such a great jab like when he used to use it, and he has always had a great left hook, but now he also has an amazing cross to boot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    MArquez does not belong anywhere north of 135.
    Neither did Mayweather, he did it to fight Judah and Tszyu and Gatti and De La HOya.

    I see Mayweather winning with the jab, he has such a great jab like when he used to use it, and he has always had a great left hook, but now he also has an amazing cross to boot.
    Floyd never fought Tszyu

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    MArquez does not belong anywhere north of 135.
    Neither did Mayweather, he did it to fight Judah and Tszyu and Gatti and De La HOya.

    I see Mayweather winning with the jab, he has such a great jab like when he used to use it, and he has always had a great left hook, but now he also has an amazing cross to boot.
    Floyd never fought Tszyu
    But he moved up to eventually fight Tszyu.

    To say that Mayweather didn't belong above 135 like Marquez isn't true though. He said after his fight with Ndou that he felt drained which is why he didn't move his feet much and even at 135 he always had a bigger frame then nearly all his opponents and like you well kno Taeth his arm length is well beyond that of a natural lightweight's.

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    Default Re: "Pretty Boy" vs JMM is done and will be officially announced tomorrow

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    MArquez does not belong anywhere north of 135.
    Neither did Mayweather, he did it to fight Judah and Tszyu and Gatti and De La HOya.

    I see Mayweather winning with the jab, he has such a great jab like when he used to use it, and he has always had a great left hook, but now he also has an amazing cross to boot.
    Polar opposites in career points,Marquez just now coming up in Lt weight wars,at what...,35,he will not be afforded the 'counter puncher 'role.Will have to press Allll night.Mayweather has been very well rested,preserved and calculated for this comeback moment.All props to Mayweather and I love Marquez and respect him to death........But I think Floyd might just knock him out!A bridge 2 far at this pint for JMM Imo.But yeah,I hope not

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    Default Re: "Pretty Boy" vs JMM is done and will be officially announced tomorrow

    So many subplots here... lets consider a few questions.

    1) Were does JMM rank if he somehow beats Floyd?

    2) Were does Floyd rank all time if he beats JMM and then Pac, will he shut up all of his naysayers once and for all and solidify his legacy as this generations best fighter.. Better than Jones, Calzaghe, Hopkins, Pac etc. ?

    3) Will Hatton Mayweather be any different a second time around if Hatton pulls off a victory of Pac

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    Default Re: "Pretty Boy" vs JMM is done and will be officially announced tomorrow

    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    So many subplots here... lets consider a few questions.

    1) Were does JMM rank if he somehow beats Floyd?

    2) Were does Floyd rank all time if he beats JMM and then Pac, will he shut up all of his naysayers once and for all and solidify his legacy as this generations best fighter.. Better than Jones, Calzaghe, Hopkins, Pac etc. ?

    3) Will Hatton Mayweather be any different a second time around if Hatton pulls off a victory of Pac
    1) P4P #1 in my opinion. However, it will be open to some debate until he and Pac meet for a P4P showdown.

    2) PBF's legacy is already better than Jones, Calzaghe, or Hopkins. It's comprable to Pac's, though I'd give Pac the edge, especially if he beats Hatton.

    3) Hatton will be beaten by Mayweather every time they fight until PBF's skills begin to seriously erode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    So many subplots here... lets consider a few questions.

    1) Were does JMM rank if he somehow beats Floyd?

    2) Were does Floyd rank all time if he beats JMM and then Pac, will he shut up all of his naysayers once and for all and solidify his legacy as this generations best fighter.. Better than Jones, Calzaghe, Hopkins, Pac etc. ?

    3) Will Hatton Mayweather be any different a second time around if Hatton pulls off a victory of Pac
    1) P4P #1 in my opinion. However, it will be open to some debate until he and Pac meet for a P4P showdown.

    2) PBF's legacy is already better than Jones, Calzaghe, or Hopkins. It's comprable to Pac's, though I'd give Pac the edge, especially if he beats Hatton.

    3) Hatton will be beaten by Mayweather every time they fight until PBF's skills begin to seriously erode.
    How so? If you break down Floyds resume its better, given age and quality of opponent...

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    Default Re: "Pretty Boy" vs JMM is done and will be officially announced tomorrow

    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    So many subplots here... lets consider a few questions.

    1) Were does JMM rank if he somehow beats Floyd?

    2) Were does Floyd rank all time if he beats JMM and then Pac, will he shut up all of his naysayers once and for all and solidify his legacy as this generations best fighter.. Better than Jones, Calzaghe, Hopkins, Pac etc. ?

    3) Will Hatton Mayweather be any different a second time around if Hatton pulls off a victory of Pac
    1) P4P #1 in my opinion. However, it will be open to some debate until he and Pac meet for a P4P showdown.

    2) PBF's legacy is already better than Jones, Calzaghe, or Hopkins. It's comprable to Pac's, though I'd give Pac the edge, especially if he beats Hatton.

    3) Hatton will be beaten by Mayweather every time they fight until PBF's skills begin to seriously erode.
    How so? If you break down Floyds resume its better, given age and quality of opponent...
    I disagree, though it is close - like I said, I wouldn't give it to Pac until he beats Hatton. However, considering where Pac started, where he's gone, and who he has beat I think his resume is better. Barrera x2, Marquez x2, Morales x2, and Hatton, should he beat him, are all very impressive victories, equal to or better than any of Mayweather's. I know Mayweather beat Hatton, but depending on how Pac hypothetically beats him I could very well find Pac's victory more impressive than PBF's given where Pac started.

    It's a debatable subject though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post

    1) P4P #1 in my opinion. However, it will be open to some debate until he and Pac meet for a P4P showdown.

    2) PBF's legacy is already better than Jones, Calzaghe, or Hopkins. It's comprable to Pac's, though I'd give Pac the edge, especially if he beats Hatton.

    3) Hatton will be beaten by Mayweather every time they fight until PBF's skills begin to seriously erode.
    How so? If you break down Floyds resume its better, given age and quality of opponent...
    I disagree, though it is close - like I said, I wouldn't give it to Pac until he beats Hatton. However, considering where Pac started, where he's gone, and who he has beat I think his resume is better. Barrera x2, Marquez x2, Morales x2, and Hatton, should he beat him, are all very impressive victories, equal to or better than any of Mayweather's. I know Mayweather beat Hatton, but depending on how Pac hypothetically beats him I could very well find Pac's victory more impressive than PBF's given where Pac started.

    It's a debatable subject though.
    Floyd started at low weights and worked his way up to bro... Did it before pac..

    No matter what he beat a younger fresher Hatton by Ko, although he didnt KO Delahoya he fought a comfortable 154 version giving up every advantage weight, gloves, ring size etc..

    Manfredy
    PrimeCoralles
    PrimeCastillo 2X
    Judah
    PrimeHatton
    Prime Jesus Chaves
    PrimeCarlos Hernandez
    undefeated power punching Philip n'dou
    pretty faded Arturo Gatti

    Im to tired to look up the rest

    Pacs only prime superstar fighter on his resume is Barrera and I give him full credit for the demolishon.. he got beat by a Prime Morales, beat a faded Morales, then a shot Morales.. Drew with JMM and got a gift from God in the 2nd fight with JMM

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    Love or hate the IRS they have insured a lot of big fights end up getting made
    Most bad government has grown out of too much government. Thomas Jefferson

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    Default Re: "Pretty Boy" vs JMM is done and will be officially announced tomorrow

    Good one Van That's awesome if true what a great fight I really don't think size is going to mean a whole lot in that one but do think Floyd will win but no doubt about it this is going to be one of his toughest fights in his career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    Good one Van That's awesome if true what a great fight I really don't think size is going to mean a whole lot in that one but do think Floyd will win but no doubt about it this is going to be one of his toughest fights in his career.
    I think Floyds speed and power at 144 will undoubtedly ring JMM's bell, Floyd dosent offer to many counter punching opportunities and even though is the bigger man will let JMM be the agressor potshotting him on the way in and picking off most of what Marquez gives him... I agree JMM's heart, determination and will is something of legend that will test Floyd at a whole other level... I think Floyd will let him tire out, cook him and get him out of there about the same time he got Hatton out of there.

    I love both guys as you all know, but my loyalty is with Floyd all the way, but will be torn the whole time

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