Hey Pac,why not give this guy a fight?

[Snakey]

Valero...out cold in the first 30 seconds! End of story, not on the same level at all.

KHAN was koed by an unkonwn Prescot.bear that in mind.

Khan is an unknown himself. He is nothing at this point, he is not an awesome fighter and definitely has not proved to be anything else. Pacman on the other hand is an awesome fighter. He has more skill in his left hand then Khan has in his entire body. Comparing Khan to pacman is like comparing apples to bananas.

[happytrip]

Valero...out cold in the first 30 seconds! End of story, not on the same level at all.

KHAN was koed by an unkonwn Prescot.bear that in mind.

Khan is an unknown himself. He is nothing at this point, he is not an awesome fighter and definitely has not proved to be anything else. Pacman on the other hand is an awesome fighter. He has more skill in his left hand then Khan has in his entire body. Comparing Khan to pacman is like comparing apples to bananas.

You are so presumptious with your analysis.Are you in any way connected to Bob Arum?Or any bigtime promoter for that matter? Please dont get me wrong,i really think youre a boxing guru.

[Gandalf]

Manny destroys Valero. Valero has no defence and is too slow. Manny seems to have grown into 140 quite quickly too.

[happytrip]

Manny destroys Valero. Valero has no defence and is too slow. Manny seems to have grown into 140 quite quickly too.

remains to be seen.im hoping the fight will happen.

[mnmc10]

pre i believe valero is under arum or trains at the wildcard gym. thats why he is around pac lately.

the fight at macau didnt happen cause diaz, odlh is a better choice for pac. you got to understand also that there is a line of fighters eager to fight pac. and if you rank all of them valero is in last both in skill and profitabilty.

[happytrip]

pre i believe valero is under arum or trains at the wildcard gym. thats why he is around pac lately.

the fight at macau didnt happen cause diaz, odlh is a better choice for pac. you got to understand also that there is a line of fighters eager to fight pac. and if you rank all of them valero is in last both in skill and profitabilty.

I know Valero is on Arum's fold pre.

Based on your info,i can understand that my requested fight is not likely to happen...thank you pre,maybe that is why Valero says he wants JMM ,in cebu presscon.

Nevertheless,i strongly believe VALERO is a worthy opponent for MANNY.Thing is he has no fan base and other elements for profitability.Well this is reality,this is pro boxing.

[The Congressman]

Valero has no head movement at all.

[Mar]

Valero has no head movement at all.

He hasn't needed it.

[happytrip]

pre i believe valero is under arum or trains at the wildcard gym. thats why he is around pac lately.

the fight at macau didnt happen cause diaz, odlh is a better choice for pac. you got to understand also that there is a line of fighters eager to fight pac. and if you rank all of them valero is in last both in skill and profitabilty.

I forgot to inform that the MACAU figth did not push thru,because the PACQUIAO camp considers Valero dangerous.That is the reason.

In addition,the time that Arum was offering the Macau fight to Manny,it was still in the stage that manny was choosing who will be his promoter,Oscar or Arum.IMO,arum was out to kick out Manny from the elite group of boxers .Since no assurance of getting Manny into his fold,might as well destroy him.And VALERO ,is capable of doing this.But in the course of the shakey negos,somehow MANNY and ARUM have come to terms.I guess the settlement was consumated with the help of Wakee Salud,an Arum confidante and adviser to MANNY.

This is my side of the story.btw Wakkee Salud is the big chinese looking guy seen always in the ring on MANNY'S FIGHTS.

[happytrip]

Mind you,Valero was always hired as sparring partner to almost all of PAC's opponents.Barrera,Morales,JMM,ODLH,to name a few.Thing is he keeps on hurting these guys in sparing;result is he always lose his job.Have you heard stories of VALERO battering the 4 mentioned boxers in spar sessions?

Well these are unconfirmed stories,thing is he always seem to be fired out as a sparmate to these guys.

See?

[Pugilistic]

Pacquiao would pick Valero apart.

Easy win for the Pacman.

[happytrip]

bob arum in the gensan party too...

[hitmanhatton]

Manny destroys Valero. Valero has no defence and is too slow. Manny seems to have grown into 140 quite quickly too.

remains to be seen.im hoping the fight will happen.

fight wont happen at this point, not enough money to be made for pac or arum

also valero lasts 3 rounds at the very most, not fast enough and his defence will lead to him being KTFO

[Snakey]

KHAN was koed by an unkonwn Prescot.bear that in mind.

Khan is an unknown himself. He is nothing at this point, he is not an awesome fighter and definitely has not proved to be anything else. Pacman on the other hand is an awesome fighter. He has more skill in his left hand then Khan has in his entire body. Comparing Khan to pacman is like comparing apples to bananas.

You are so presumptious with your analysis.Are you in any way connected to Bob Arum?Or any bigtime promoter for that matter? Please dont get me wrong,i really think youre a boxing guru.

Mate have you seen valero fight? Hes not the most defensive minded boxer of all time. Hes all offence, did you see what happened to ricky hatton who tried just offence. You dont beat pac by standing back and exchanging bombs because pacman is going to hit you first and hit you hard. Valero is wide open and would be picked off easily. From what i judged from his last fight, he stands up too straight which pacs left hand would love and is quite wild which would leave so many nice openings for a lightning fast right hook from pacman. This is coming from someone who doesnt mind pac but isnt his biggest fan, i just generally think send valero against pac coz he has power is like sending a bull against a crocodile coz the bull can hit hard...wat else does it have to help its chances?

[mnmc10]

yep wakee salud the same guy who screwed pac over money! lucky him pac didnt sue him at all.

back then when valero pac was a buzz i posted here in saddo that anyone has a punchers chance. it only takes one clean punch and the fight is over. valero should work his way to the top first b4 he deserves the right to fight pac.

pac beating valero wont add points to his legacy if he beats valero everyone will say well he beat a nobody, losing to valero wont harm pacs legacy too. so what will pac,boxing and us get out from this fight?