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    Default Re: Is Miguel Cotto too BIG for Pacquiao?

    I agree with Taeth.

    When you consider Cotto doesn't have the greatest chin, Pac has the power and most importantly the speed to give him nightmares.

    A year ago I would have thought it was ridiculous, but now I would make Pac the favourite. Amazing.
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    Default Re: Is Miguel Cotto too BIG for Pacquiao?

    I'd probably favor Pacquiao too, I have visions of a right hook bouncing off Cotto's temple

    And his footspeed would pose some problems too.

    Its still a dangerous fight for both guys. As good as it is I'm not dying to see it as I like both guys.

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    Default Re: Is Miguel Cotto too BIG for Pacquiao?

    Yes and no. If both guys stood centre ring for a test and then traded shots like Russian roulette, Pac would fall first, but is Pac fast enough (and clever enough) to avoid the really big flush shots for 12, he just might. Cotto defo has the power to fold him IMO, and he also has a better defence and chin than Hatton at 147, after all I don't think Pac hits as hard as Mosely. If they make Cotto shed the weight though down to 143 or less I'd have Pac favourite personally.

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    Default Re: Is Miguel Cotto too BIG for Pacquiao?

    I think Cotto would be too much for Pac. He has the most underrated jab in boxing, and he would use this to control the fight and eventually stop Pacman. I'm not sure if Cotto will ever be the same after getting beat by plaster boy though, so who knows. We'll know more about Cotto after the Clottey fight.
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    Default Re: Is Miguel Cotto too BIG for Pacquiao?

    Size means nothing to Pacquaio anymore. He's not human!

    Miguel is obviously the bigger man at 147, but not that big imo.

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    Default Re: Is Miguel Cotto too BIG for Pacquiao?

    hmm .. doesnt Cotto come to the ring at 160 ?!?

    Thats a 12pound weight advantage

    Manny may be able to dart in and out for a few rounds
    peppering Cotto with right jabs and lead lefts but what happens
    if Cotto times him just once with a clean hook to the body or chin ...



    I think Manny would be shaken up and Cotto would jump on him.

    Remember Mannys success in moving up weight
    is hit and not getting hit back and Iam sure Cotto would tag him.

    Although would love to see the fight at say 143 or so ...


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    Default Re: Is Miguel Cotto too BIG for Pacquiao?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chutebox View Post
    hmm .. doesnt Cotto come to the ring at 160 ?!?

    Thats a 12pound weight advantage

    Manny may be able to dart in and out for a few rounds
    peppering Cotto with right jabs and lead lefts but what happens
    if Cotto times him just once with a clean hook to the body or chin ...



    I think Manny would be shaken up and Cotto would jump on him.

    Remember Mannys success in moving up weight
    is hit and not getting hit back and Iam sure Cotto would tag him.

    Although would love to see the fight at say 143 or so ...

    What happens when Pacquiao landed 20 punches for every one that Cotto does?

    Size isn't that big of a factor, sure Cotto might be 15 pounds heavier than Pacman but he needs to be able to impose that size and Pacman wouldn't be there for him to do so. Mayweather was likely 15 pounds lighter than Oscar in their fight and he wasn't destroyed by every punch.

    Cotto is a hard puncher, but it still took him 11 rounds to stop Judah who is way easier to hit than Pacman(can't believe the roll reversal here), and he didn't keep Cotto honest by throwing punches of his own. Cotto doesn't hit harder than Oscar, and as long as he wasn't abusing Pacquiao the way he did to Quintana and Judah I don't think he would be able to stop Pacquiao without landing a lot of leather, I mean Marquez and Morales landed so much on Pacquiao that his durability is unquestionable, people need to stop thinking about hte 113 pound teenager who got stopped when he was badly weight drained.

    Cotto is a lot bigger, but like if he fought Mayweather maybe even more so because Manny moves more, you can't impose your size on empty space which is all he would be able to catch. I actually think he has a very similar offensive mind as Marquez but he goes to the body more, I just don't think he has that footspeed Marquez had to get in after Pacquiao would make a mistake.

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    Default Re: Is Miguel Cotto too BIG for Pacquiao?

    20-1 is not realistic even in the Manny v Ricky domination, the
    landing punch stats was no where near 20-1 ratio. You said when
    i said if, theres the difference. So by your expectations the
    end of the fight landing punch stats would be :

    Cotto total punches landed :

    100

    Pac total punches landed :

    2000

    or if it was a short night :

    10 Cotto
    200 Pac

    Even then it is not realistic.

    Hatton landed a total of 18 punches
    Manny landed a total of 73 punches

    Thats roughly a 4-1 ratio in favour of Manny Pacman.

    20-1 ratio for a welterweight fight between Cotto and the Pacmonster
    is unrealistic but thats my opinion.

    The size issue is still a fact and whether it would be an issue or not
    is just an opinion. 12/15 pounds is still 12/15 pounds and for each
    punch Cotto lands it would be no doubt the heaviest punch
    Manny would have ever felt in a professional prize fight.

    Maywheather is a completely different boxer than Manny, style wise.
    Hes defense first, offense second and his whole game especially
    at welterweight/above is to win and to win safe, see Baldomir fight, Oscar etc

    I agree Marquez and Morales did land alot on the Pacman and his
    durability at 130 & below shouldnt be questioned but who has landed
    even half that amount at 135/above ?

    He barely has been caught flush by either Diaz at 35, Oscar at 47
    and Hatton at 40.

    Would Manny be able to deal with that if it were to happen?


    I don't think about when Manny was a 112pound kid who was starving
    himself to make weight affecting his overall resistance,
    that doesnt mean anything in regards to the higher weights he has fought at.


    Another thing is Miguels heavy & accurate jab.If he could
    time it , Manny would not be landing at will.

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    Default Re: Is Miguel Cotto too BIG for Pacquiao?

    I honestly would go for Pac to beat Cotto. Fair enough Cotto would have the size and he is a good boxer with good speed but Pac is a better boxer with better speed and a freakish ability to carry power if not improve it the higher in weight he goes!

    I think that Pac would T-off on Cotto and stop him late like Margarito did only without taking the punishment Marg did first.

    I really don't see this fight happening though unless Marquez beats Mayweather but I don't see that!

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    Default Re: Is Miguel Cotto too BIG for Pacquiao?

    Cotto gets brutally KOED by Pacquiao like Hatton was or worst.
    Ive seen Cotto hurt way too many times to think Pacquiao cant hurt him.
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    Default Re: Is Miguel Cotto too BIG for Pacquiao?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manuel "Chubby" Medina View Post
    Cotto gets brutally KOED by Pacquiao like Hatton was or worst.
    Ive seen Cotto hurt way too many times to think Pacquiao cant hurt him.
    he took bricks to the face for 11 rounds i think his chin is more than just decent

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    Default Re: Is Miguel Cotto too BIG for Pacquiao?

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Manuel "Chubby" Medina View Post
    Cotto gets brutally KOED by Pacquiao like Hatton was or worst.
    Ive seen Cotto hurt way too many times to think Pacquiao cant hurt him.
    he took bricks to the face for 11 rounds i think his chin is more than just decent

    Cotto would be the most dangerous fighter Manny will face. I'm giving them 50-50 chance. Actually, more for Cotto 55-45.

    Hope pac vs mayweather happens. Cotto is too risky and too little reward for Pac.

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    Default Re: Is Miguel Cotto too BIG for Pacquiao?

    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Manuel "Chubby" Medina View Post
    Cotto gets brutally KOED by Pacquiao like Hatton was or worst.
    Ive seen Cotto hurt way too many times to think Pacquiao cant hurt him.
    he took bricks to the face for 11 rounds i think his chin is more than just decent

    Cotto would be the most dangerous fighter Manny will face. I'm giving them 50-50 chance. Actually, more for Cotto 55-45.

    Hope pac vs mayweather happens. Cotto is too risky and too little reward for Pac.
    too little reward? the man is ranked #2 at welter and has a huge fanbase, sells out MSG every time he fights there, so yea dunno what you're talkin about, a high risk little reward fight would be something against, Collazo, Clottey, Quintana, etc.

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    Default Re: Is Miguel Cotto too BIG for Pacquiao?

    I'll make my comment if this fight get signed... Cotto has a bigger problem to face... I think, Clottey is BIG for Cotto...
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    Default Re: Is Miguel Cotto too BIG for Pacquiao?

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Manuel "Chubby" Medina View Post
    Cotto gets brutally KOED by Pacquiao like Hatton was or worst.
    Ive seen Cotto hurt way too many times to think Pacquiao cant hurt him.
    he took bricks to the face for 11 rounds i think his chin is more than just decent
    That hasn't been proven and probably never will...
    Other than Margarito like Quintana,Torres and Judah etc. have hurt him.
    Pacquiao hits harder then them and bricks.
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