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    Default Re: Ricky should have stayed with Billy Graham

    I don't think Ricky could have beat Pacquiao that night, but I think he had a chance. We all knew that patience was a major part of being victorious in this fight. If he was mentally prepared, instead of "pedal to the metal". Mayweather didn't do his part to get Ricky ready mentally. Ricky wanted the fight it way too much. He beat himself just as much as Pacquiao knocked him out.

    I don't see Ricky quiting at this point. I hope he collects himself, loses Mayweather Sr. and gets back to the "Ricky of Old" (in a maner of speaking, only). I doubt that we'll ever see him against another p4p #1, but a few well positioned fights, we might see him in a rematch with Mayweather Jr. right after Pacquiao softens him up. I heard him say things in 24/7 that makes me think he won't retire this way.

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    Default Re: Ricky should have stayed with Billy Graham

    If hatton shows up in the ring trying to box with his hands down it doesn't matter who trains him, it's only a different person picking him up off that damn rockstar mat again.
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    Default Re: Ricky should have stayed with Billy Graham

    He fought like an idiot. It was shockingly bad.

    I love hatton, but I have no sympathy for that kind of approach.

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    Default Re: Ricky should have stayed with Billy Graham

    Quote Originally Posted by Saddo View Post
    i'm trying to think of any fighter who changed trainers at the tail end of there career and it improved them.

    not my best subject but i can't think of one.

    anyone tell me of any as i am struggling to see this as anything other than an excuse for losing.
    Off the top of my head George Foreman (Angelo Dundee); but of course that was in completely different circumstances to Hatton's.

    My take is perhaps post Mayweather Jr; Hatton was not prepared to make the real hard decision and look at his lifestyle, so he picked the easier option (I would like to think Hatton dropped Graham with a heavy heart) and got rid of Billy.

    It looks great with hindsight, but even at the time I figured Hatton had nothing left to prove post Mayweather Jr, he should of called it a day then.

    But he did look good beating Paulie and I will admit I figured Hatton had benefited from the change of trainer, but I was wrong; the blowing up between fights cost him in the end, and he was a lucky man yesterday; Health wise.
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    Default Re: Ricky should have stayed with Billy Graham

    I think Ricky getting a new trainer was a good idea. It's an age and motivation thing. Sometimes you need to do things differently to get motivated again. I think that was his problem with Graham. That being said Mayweather was a bad choice. Not Mayweather's fault he lost, but I think trying to fight Mayweather's style made it end sooner. He stayed in Pac's range instead of smothering him and trying to wear him down.

    I think Mayweather is too full of himself to train anyone. It's not about the fighter it's about him. I think he's very overrated. His boxing career matches his training career. He has the tools, but can't put it together.

    Mayweather can't maintain a relationship with anyone accept ODH. And I think it was ODH tolerating Mayweather's poor work habits. I don't see Mayweather being a disciplined coach at all. He's got good genetics, fast, experience, but he's dumb as a box of rocks and does what he wants when he wants.

    Mayweather had Bad Chad Dawson and that lasted for about 3 months before they split and Mayweather was trashing him. He's just a scumbag.
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