Floyd vs Manny who has the bartering power?

[Kev]

It would be great if the fight would happen at 140.

I was thinking yesterday that Floyd needs Manny more than Manny needs Floyd.

Mayweather was NEVER a decent PPV draw by himself. It was always the names of his opponents that created the hype and generated sales.

It's kind of like "anything you can do I can do better." Floyd gives an overly-cautious fight versus Oscar that goes 12, Manny stops Oscar in 8. Floyd stops Hatton in 10, Pacquiao stops him in 2.

So here Floyd was thinking he is one of the goat, but he may not even be the greatest of his generation.

Pac is a bonafide solo ppv draw right now. He comes to fight, he comes to give action. Pac has character and charisma, even general fans of the sport see there is something special about him.

I think Pac should get 60/40 and make mayweather come down to 140. If this is at 147 I think Pac might get beat up. 140 makes a more interesting fight, floyd can make 140, and pac should have the edge in demands.

You can take Floyd's name out of every sentence you just wrote and replace it with Manny's and your statements are still the same. Fact remains, Manny also has yet to headline a blockbuster PPV without a big name in the opposite corner just like Floyd. I doubt either of these guys could sell a million PPVs by fighting a Javier Castillejo like DLH did. Floyd fans only want to see him fight Manny, and Manny fans only want to see him fight Floyd. Neither needs the other any less. They both need each other. 50-50 seems right.

Nah I don't think that's the case. Against Marquez Manny generated over almost 500,000 buys which is an all time record for any fight below welterweight. He got 1.25 million buys against Oscar in a fight that prior to the first bell was supposed to be an Oscar walkover.

With his demolition of Oscar and now a 2 round destruction of Hatton Pacquio's marketability has gone through the roof.

Prior to his fight with De La Hoya Floyd had never generated over 400,000 buys, his fights with Gatti, Judah and Baldomir avering only around 350,000 each.

It is yet to be seen how popular Floyd is without a big name star to dance with. It will be interesting to see how Pacquaio Hatton does compared with Floyd Marquez.

But without Manny where does Floyd go? Only Paul Williams and Shane Mosely are viable opponents, Floyd will never fight Williams and Mosely is a very limited PPV draw.

Manny meanwhile can take his pick from a third Marquez fight, Cotto, unification fights at light welter, Edwin Valero etc.

Floyd will know he cannot be considered the best fighter of his generation now without beating Manny Pacqiaou.

[match]

It would be great if the fight would happen at 140.

I was thinking yesterday that Floyd needs Manny more than Manny needs Floyd.

Mayweather was NEVER a decent PPV draw by himself. It was always the names of his opponents that created the hype and generated sales.

It's kind of like "anything you can do I can do better." Floyd gives an overly-cautious fight versus Oscar that goes 12, Manny stops Oscar in 8. Floyd stops Hatton in 10, Pacquiao stops him in 2.

So here Floyd was thinking he is one of the goat, but he may not even be the greatest of his generation.

Pac is a bonafide solo ppv draw right now. He comes to fight, he comes to give action. Pac has character and charisma, even general fans of the sport see there is something special about him.

I think Pac should get 60/40 and make mayweather come down to 140. If this is at 147 I think Pac might get beat up. 140 makes a more interesting fight, floyd can make 140, and pac should have the edge in demands.

You can take Floyd's name out of every sentence you just wrote and replace it with Manny's and your statements are still the same. Fact remains, Manny also has yet to headline a blockbuster PPV without a big name in the opposite corner just like Floyd. I doubt either of these guys could sell a million PPVs by fighting a Javier Castillejo like DLH did. Floyd fans only want to see him fight Manny, and Manny fans only want to see him fight Floyd. Neither needs the other any less. They both need each other. 50-50 seems right.

Nah I don't think that's the case. Against Marquez Manny generated over almost 500,000 buys which is an all time record for any fight below welterweight. He got 1.25 million buys against Oscar in a fight that prior to the first bell was supposed to be an Oscar walkover.

With his demolition of Oscar and now a 2 round destruction of Hatton Pacquio's marketability has gone through the roof.

Prior to his fight with De La Hoya Floyd had never generated over 400,000 buys, his fights with Gatti, Judah and Baldomir avering only around 350,000 each.

It is yet to be seen how popular Floyd is without a big name star to dance with. It will be interesting to see how Pacquaio Hatton does compared with Floyd Marquez.

But without Manny where does Floyd go? Only Paul Williams and Shane Mosely are viable opponents, Floyd will never fight Williams and Mosely is a very limited PPV draw.

Manny meanwhile can take his pick from a third Marquez fight, Cotto, unification fights at light welter, Edwin Valero etc.

Floyd will know he cannot be considered the best fighter of his generation now without beating Manny Pacqiaou.

You didn't dispute anything I just said. Do you honestly think Manny fans would be satisfied with him fighting Valero and never meeting Floyd? Also, Floyd-Hatton ppvs will be bigger than Floyd-Marquez, just as Manny-Hatton will be bigger than Manny-Marquez because Hatton has a bigger following than Marquez. Again, both fighters show that in order to leap past that 1 million ppv mark, they need another big name. Sure, both could make good money fighting Cotto and Mosley, but would make TWICE as much fighting each other. And most importantly, no matter who you have as number 1, both are clearly the 2 best fighters in the world, so even entertaining the idea of putting off the fight is robbing fans, bottom line.