Why is Hatton's loss being put on the trainer?

[The Congressman]

I think Ricky listened more to his majority fans than anybody in his team. He prolly heard something like "Hatton is the bigger, stronger guy... will bully Pac around and gore him... break his ribs blah blah blah"


Yeah right. So much for that.

[El Kabong]

....and yet people still bitch about Wladimir Klitschko fighting. Hey, he wins doesn't he? He uses a plan, he listens to his trainer, he dominates and he wins. Ricky could learn from that, not a style but a way to manage a fight which is what he needed to do after getting hurt.

To me Ricky seems to be the UK twin of Arturo Gatti, he CAN box but he won't, he CAN use defense but chooses against it. Sure Sr. should have had him ready for this a little better, but people are more questioning his dedication to Ricky and not his advice.

Why isn't Lee Beard Hatton's trainer if he knows all this stuff and he and Ricky are so buddy buddy?

[Nameless]

I think that the whole situation is a bit more complicated than that:

Sure, Hatton should follow Mayweather's advices a bit better, but I think we really can't blame everything on that: There is also the part where the trainer is able to motivate a fighter and his ability to make him swallow the wizardry of boxing, perhaps Mayweather hasn't been able to adjust to Ricky about it, which is a part of his job indeed.
Also, Mayweather has a lot to be blamed for: not supporting Ricky out of the Ring, not being the first one over him when he got knocked down, never admitting any part of blame in the defeat and finally being overpaid (how much do we talk here, 300-400-500 000$?) and not being able to wake up on time more than once. It is unacceptable. If I was a pro fighter, the guy I would hire would be the best available to my situation and you can be certain I'll expect a lot from him, the first thing is being on time. We do not talk one or two time lates here, we talk a lot. To me, it shows selfishness, especially when the guy answers simply: "Ricky should retire if he can't beat Pacman or My son". After only 2 defeats how can you say such thing? you're supposed to be supportive of your fighter, at worst, say something more elusive like: "we'll have to see things together and discuss about what's next", not simply elude he should retire and that is it.

[TheDemolitionDan]

I don't think anybody is blaming Floyd Sr. Hatton just forgot everything he didn't keep his hands up and he moved his head a couple of times. Hatton just had an off night. He looked a little better in that second round and I think he had that round if the rounds were only 2:58 seconds. Sucks very much. I can't imagine how Hatton feels, I fuckin bawled like a bitch for all of saturday night and have felt like shit and I still feel like shit.

[Taeth]

I don't think anybody is blaming Floyd Sr. Hatton just forgot everything he didn't keep his hands up and he moved his head a couple of times. Hatton just had an off night. He looked a little better in that second round and I think he had that round if the rounds were only 2:58 seconds. Sucks very much. I can't imagine how Hatton feels, I fuckin bawled like a bitch for all of saturday night and have felt like shit and I still feel like shit.

Pacquiao dominated both rounds, Hatton was barely landing anything in the second round.

[TheDemolitionDan]

I don't think anybody is blaming Floyd Sr. Hatton just forgot everything he didn't keep his hands up and he moved his head a couple of times. Hatton just had an off night. He looked a little better in that second round and I think he had that round if the rounds were only 2:58 seconds. Sucks very much. I can't imagine how Hatton feels, I fuckin bawled like a bitch for all of saturday night and have felt like shit and I still feel like shit.

Pacquiao dominated both rounds, Hatton was barely landing anything in the second round.

May'be he was IDK I guess I was still in shock, but Hatton seemed to be using the jab more and looked a little better and looked a little more settled in in that round.

[Taeth]

I guess Pacquiao didn't dominate the second round hte same way, but he was the only one landing really clean punches and he was doing it pretty often, also you could see him timing that left hook over the jab, he barely missed a couple of times with it, and I was just waiting for that to happen, I didn't realize it would lay Hatton out like that though.

[Quinito]

Neither of them tried to make it as a boxing match. It was a 100% brawl. And the so called "the bigger man" was the one who got in trouble kissing the canvas 3 times.

[rjj tszyu]

No blame can be placed on Mayweather. Hatton thought he could walk through Pac and nail him with left hooks and he was wrong, very wrong.

[fan johnny]

Ricky Hatton was not ready for the fight mentally. People have said his self indulgent attitude is an act to promote the fight but his action display otherwise.

While the ultimate blame may lie with Ricky, but with out any doubt Floyd Mayweather Sr. should to accept a percentage of the blame that he failed Ricky for this bout. Ricky's head was not in the right place. As a trainer and corner man he accepted the job and should have been aware of where is head was as part of any game plan. He failed to get Ricky in the right frame of mind and that's 50% the trainer's/cornerman's fault.

Even after the fight he didn't even pretend to show concern about his man. This characterization will haunt him should he continue to pursue boxing as a trainer. With that display of integrity, I don't think there is a top fighter other than Jr. who would think of having him in his corner. He ran out in the face of defeat. IMO, Any bad press he gets he deserves.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

If his trainer had not tried to alter anything or give him the tools to win then yes we could lay some blame his way.

Him running his mouth off has nothing to do with it. Roach talks as much crap.

Fact is for whatever reason Hatton acted like a bonehead. No head or body movement and charged in. When Pacs first lead hook landed that told me everything on how this fight would go.

Hatton has only himself to blame. It also shows the gulf between Hatton and the great fighters Pac has fought who were able to take those shots.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Ricky Hatton was not ready for the fight mentally. People have said his self indulgent attitude is an act to promote the fight but his action display otherwise.

While the ultimate blame may lie with Ricky, but with out any doubt Floyd Mayweather Sr. should to accept a percentage of the blame that he failed Ricky for this bout. Ricky's head was not in the right place. As a trainer and corner man he accepted the job and should have been aware of where is head was as part of any game plan. He failed to get Ricky in the right frame of mind and that's 50% the trainer's/cornerman's fault.

Even after the fight he didn't even pretend to show concern about his man. This characterization will haunt him should he continue to pursue boxing as a trainer. With that display of integrity, I don't think there is a top fighter other than Jr. who would think of having him in his corner. He ran out in the face of defeat. IMO, Any bad press he gets he deserves.

Possibly but I've seen good corner work in action, trying all sorts to get through to their man and I've seen a fighter mentally break in the corner. For some people I don't think there is anything a corner can do for them.
Maybe the years of Graham shouting in the corner trying to gee his man up was detrimental in the long term when a cooler headed Hatton was required?

[mattboxingfan]

Ricky didnt blame Floyd so we cant say he should take the blame because he has. Its everyone on this forum who are blaming Floyd and im not suprised because he os a right **** but it is really all on the fighter.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Ricky didnt blame Floyd so we cant say he should take the blame because he has. Its everyone on this forum who are blaming Floyd and im not suprised because he os a right **** but it is really all on the fighter.

fights that you should blame the trainer are fights like Trinidad/Wright, where Tito was clearly getting beaten and Trinidad Sr kept telling Tito that he was doing everything right, and that Winky was tirinig already

[THE THIRD MAN]

I actually think the whole thing has gone to Hatton's head these past few years, since the Tszyu fight Hatton has had an army of fans telling him how wonderful he is and he really has believed them all!!
He loses to Mayweather, but the excuse is Mayweather is the best fighter in the world, no shame there he thinks. He then fights Paquiao and is not competitive at all for 2 rounds and gets Knocked out cold!
I can't see how this is his trainer's fault? If his camp wasn't a happy one leading up to the fight i do not see how this made any difference to the demolition job Pacquiao did on him. It sounds more like Hatton was going to do it his way no matter who was in his corner and that's just ego!