Damn Hatton, why why why!!!

[Myk_Myk]

Man...what a way to find out...that was the same as PBF v Gatti...in terms of A+ vs C rated... but i thought Hatton was legit at 140...i guess it was KT's age and not hatton's ability

Fighters do get old. They do lose the edge over the years that they once had. This happens faster with aggressive fighters and I personally find it insulting that fair weather fans like you quickly turn on a fighter who risk their health over and over again.

Hatton gets shit on all of the sudden for losing? Any fighter who takes real risks lose at some point. Those same fighters earn my respect way more than the ones who carefully craft who their next opponent will be.

Hatton went out on his shield like a man. He got beaten by another man who has taken many risks. We many never see another fighter unite fans in the way Ricky did and that alone deserves respect. Win or Lose.

By the way grade C fighters do not achieve what hatton did. Not even close!

I agree greatly with this. I remember saying a couple of years ago on here that the way Hatton fought wasn't conducive to a long career at the top. His habit of jumping up in weight also in large part did him in I think. The problem is he's too small naturally to move up, but he looks so drained and drawn at 140. Yoyoing in weight and fighting so many wars of attrition, it's actually amazing he had the career he had.

[Majesty]

Man...what a way to find out...that was the same as PBF v Gatti...in terms of A+ vs C rated... but i thought Hatton was legit at 140...i guess it was KT's age and not hatton's ability

Fighters do get old. They do lose the edge over the years that they once had. This happens faster with aggressive fighters and I personally find it insulting that fair weather fans like you quickly turn on a fighter who risk their health over and over again.

Hatton gets shit on all of the sudden for losing? Any fighter who takes real risks lose at some point. Those same fighters earn my respect way more than the ones who carefully craft who their next opponent will be.

Hatton went out on his shield like a man. He got beaten by another man who has taken many risks. We many never see another fighter unite fans in the way Ricky did and that alone deserves respect. Win or Lose.

By the way grade C fighters do not achieve what hatton did. Not even close!

It doesn't take a man to stand there and get your head bashed in when you could be avoiding punishment. Boxing in general is a real risk and just because someone wants to run in forget defense and take shots to his head don't make hi many less of a man then someone who moves their head. It isn't manly to go in guns blazing thinking you can overpower a faster guy who after the first shot they land obviously hurts you. That's not being manly, it's being stupid.

Much respect to Ricky Hatton for uniting the fans the way he did. But don't turn him into a deity because he fought a stupid fight and call it manly. It was stupid, and he lost because of it. If he'd listened to his corner and done what they had trained to do he'd still be as much of a man and probably would have been in better shape then knocked out in 2 rounds.

[The Congressman]

Hatton thought he could bully Pac around like he did to Tsyzu. That's like feeding yourself into a wood chipper head first. Big mistake.

[Gandalf]

Man...what a way to find out...that was the same as PBF v Gatti...in terms of A+ vs C rated... but i thought Hatton was legit at 140...i guess it was KT's age and not hatton's ability

Fighters do get old. They do lose the edge over the years that they once had. This happens faster with aggressive fighters and I personally find it insulting that fair weather fans like you quickly turn on a fighter who risk their health over and over again.

Hatton gets shit on all of the sudden for losing? Any fighter who takes real risks lose at some point. Those same fighters earn my respect way more than the ones who carefully craft who their next opponent will be.

Hatton went out on his shield like a man. He got beaten by another man who has taken many risks. We many never see another fighter unite fans in the way Ricky did and that alone deserves respect. Win or Lose.

By the way grade C fighters do not achieve what hatton did. Not even close!

It doesn't take a man to stand there and get your head bashed in when you could be avoiding punishment. Boxing in general is a real risk and just because someone wants to run in forget defense and take shots to his head don't make hi many less of a man then someone who moves their head. It isn't manly to go in guns blazing thinking you can overpower a faster guy who after the first shot they land obviously hurts you. That's not being manly, it's being stupid.

Much respect to Ricky Hatton for uniting the fans the way he did. But don't turn him into a deity because he fought a stupid fight and call it manly. It was stupid, and he lost because of it. If he'd listened to his corner and done what they had trained to do he'd still be as much of a man and probably would have been in better shape then knocked out in 2 rounds.

Totally agree. He fought one of the most stupid fights I have ever seen. Absolutely no self control and he had no real reason to be forcing things so soon. At least not so recklessly. Having had time to let it all sink in, all I can say is that I am very, very dissapointed in how he fought.

As much as Manny fought well, there is no doubt that Hatton played into his hands 100%. He pretty much handed the fight to Manny on a plate.

Perhaps humble Hatton really has been taken over by a massive ego. He seemed to go in there with a disregard for the damage Manny can cause and paid the ultimate penalty. Post Tszyu, he has neglected his skills and failed to nurture good habits. Some of us thought he might have been learning some lessons post Mayweather but he really hasn't. It seems to have been all talk, we saw nothing new at all against Manny...just regression IMO. You can't go in with your chin up and your hands down thinking you can beat anyone. He has most likely forgotten far more now, than he can ever learn again. Younger Hatton was always somewhat sloppy, but not utterly demented like this one.

[XaduBoxer]

neg rep for that.

Thank you. you've just shown how ignorant you are. I said against pac,DLH LOOKED amateur. What's wrong with that? He was indeed schooled by Pac. Tell me if DLH was not schooled by Pac and I'll tell you that you haven't watched the fight.

Sad that you're still bitter about our little argument about Barrera and Khan. I could not think of any reason why you give the neg rep.

Because you're once again taking credit when it's not due and once again making pac fans looks like idiots. 99% of people agree that DLH was a weight drained shell and you think it's a great reflection on Pac.

& if I could sad click/neg rep you again for thinking that I've been waiting for an opportunity to neg rep you because of some preceived slur you've kept in your head for two months beggars belief. You're a sad little man.

On my final thoughts for PAC-Hatton fight, I pointed out Hatton is always talking that people were reading too much of PAC's last fight (against Hoya) and further claimed that he could KO Hoya earlier if it was him fighting...

Big mistake... Yes Hoya was a weight drained shell, a human punching bag... That image of Hoya blinded most people on what PAC has done impressively that night... PAC was super quick (as always)... PAC's quickness made Hoya looked like an amateur... PAC busted Hoya's face... PAC inflicted the worst beating ever on Hoya... I always cherished that photo of Hoya facing a blank space while PAC was firing bombs at his side... Totally amazing...

Hatton totally believing on the "Hoya was a weight drained shell" pronouncement made him with no respect for PAC's power... Hatton became over confident on himself thinking he's the bigger and stronger guy... I remember Hatton was asked by a reporter on how he plan to deal with PAC's power and he replied "f-u-c-k--o-f-f" ... Totally wrong mind set by Hatton... tsk tsk ...

[Violent Demise]

im guessing saksakmo`s account has been suspended??

as for his nobody can ever beat the pacman..............urgh........


erik morales, 2 fellow phillipinos and juan manuel marquez....TWICE


just to answer your question!!

Singsurat wasn't a flip. He was Thai dumb ass

Hatton thought he could bully Pac around like he did to Tsyzu. That's like feeding yourself into a wood chipper head first. Big mistake.

It helped that Hatton had the ref in his pocket for the Tszyu fight

[Majesty]

Fighters do get old. They do lose the edge over the years that they once had. This happens faster with aggressive fighters and I personally find it insulting that fair weather fans like you quickly turn on a fighter who risk their health over and over again.

Hatton gets shit on all of the sudden for losing? Any fighter who takes real risks lose at some point. Those same fighters earn my respect way more than the ones who carefully craft who their next opponent will be.

Hatton went out on his shield like a man. He got beaten by another man who has taken many risks. We many never see another fighter unite fans in the way Ricky did and that alone deserves respect. Win or Lose.

By the way grade C fighters do not achieve what hatton did. Not even close!

It doesn't take a man to stand there and get your head bashed in when you could be avoiding punishment. Boxing in general is a real risk and just because someone wants to run in forget defense and take shots to his head don't make hi many less of a man then someone who moves their head. It isn't manly to go in guns blazing thinking you can overpower a faster guy who after the first shot they land obviously hurts you. That's not being manly, it's being stupid.

Much respect to Ricky Hatton for uniting the fans the way he did. But don't turn him into a deity because he fought a stupid fight and call it manly. It was stupid, and he lost because of it. If he'd listened to his corner and done what they had trained to do he'd still be as much of a man and probably would have been in better shape then knocked out in 2 rounds.

Totally agree. He fought one of the most stupid fights I have ever seen. Absolutely no self control and he had no real reason to be forcing things so soon. At least not so recklessly. Having had time to let it all sink in, all I can say is that I am very, very dissapointed in how he fought.

As much as Manny fought well, there is no doubt that Hatton played into his hands 100%. He pretty much handed the fight to Manny on a plate.

Perhaps humble Hatton really has been taken over by a massive ego. He seemed to go in there with a disregard for the damage Manny can cause and paid the ultimate penalty. Post Tszyu, he has neglected his skills and failed to nurture good habits. Some of us thought he might have been learning some lessons post Mayweather but he really hasn't. It seems to have been all talk, we saw nothing new at all against Manny...just regression IMO. You can't go in with your chin up and your hands down thinking you can beat anyone. He has most likely forgotten far more now, than he can ever learn again. Younger Hatton was always somewhat sloppy, but not utterly demented like this one.

I think Jim Lampley said something like that best when he was referencing Barerra's loss to Junior Jones. "He went in there thinking he was invincible, but then he found out he wasn't."

I think the fans have a lot to do with it and people in Hatton's ear.


When he got knocked out by Mayweather you didn't hear that Hatton lost because he was always lunging in and did nothing to improve his defense and thats why he lost.

Instead a majority of the time you heard, Ricky was giving him a tough fight and it wasn't even at 140, if it was at 140 it would have been different, the only reason Floyd won was because the fight was at 147. And im sure people around Hatton were saying exactly what his fans were. Then when he beat Malignaggi he probably bought into all of it, like he was unbeatable at 140, that Mayweather only beat him because he moved up, so in his mind he probably figured why should he change anything. He didn't. And reality hit him again. The difference was, this time there was nothing that the fans, or people around him could say as an excuse to why he loss. So it's probably hit him harder

[Gandalf]

It doesn't take a man to stand there and get your head bashed in when you could be avoiding punishment. Boxing in general is a real risk and just because someone wants to run in forget defense and take shots to his head don't make hi many less of a man then someone who moves their head. It isn't manly to go in guns blazing thinking you can overpower a faster guy who after the first shot they land obviously hurts you. That's not being manly, it's being stupid.

Much respect to Ricky Hatton for uniting the fans the way he did. But don't turn him into a deity because he fought a stupid fight and call it manly. It was stupid, and he lost because of it. If he'd listened to his corner and done what they had trained to do he'd still be as much of a man and probably would have been in better shape then knocked out in 2 rounds.

Totally agree. He fought one of the most stupid fights I have ever seen. Absolutely no self control and he had no real reason to be forcing things so soon. At least not so recklessly. Having had time to let it all sink in, all I can say is that I am very, very dissapointed in how he fought.

As much as Manny fought well, there is no doubt that Hatton played into his hands 100%. He pretty much handed the fight to Manny on a plate.

Perhaps humble Hatton really has been taken over by a massive ego. He seemed to go in there with a disregard for the damage Manny can cause and paid the ultimate penalty. Post Tszyu, he has neglected his skills and failed to nurture good habits. Some of us thought he might have been learning some lessons post Mayweather but he really hasn't. It seems to have been all talk, we saw nothing new at all against Manny...just regression IMO. You can't go in with your chin up and your hands down thinking you can beat anyone. He has most likely forgotten far more now, than he can ever learn again. Younger Hatton was always somewhat sloppy, but not utterly demented like this one.

I think Jim Lampley said something like that best when he was referencing Barerra's loss to Junior Jones. "He went in there thinking he was invincible, but then he found out he wasn't."

I think the fans have a lot to do with it and people in Hatton's ear.


When he got knocked out by Mayweather you didn't hear that Hatton lost because he was always lunging in and did nothing to improve his defense and thats why he lost.

Instead a majority of the time you heard, Ricky was giving him a tough fight and it wasn't even at 140, if it was at 140 it would have been different, the only reason Floyd won was because the fight was at 147. And im sure people around Hatton were saying exactly what his fans were. Then when he beat Malignaggi he probably bought into all of it, like he was unbeatable at 140, that Mayweather only beat him because he moved up, so in his mind he probably figured why should he change anything. He didn't. And reality hit him again. The difference was, this time there was nothing that the fans, or people around him could say as an excuse to why he loss. So it's probably hit him harder

That's right. And afterwards Barrera began the process of turning himself into a far more technical fighter. He paid heed to his deficiencies and tried improve himself. Great fighters are able to do that.

It's a sad case with Hatton. The Mayweather loss was not as bad as this. Excuses could be made ie the weight and Cortez. But at the end of the day it's tough to argue against getting sparked out off the ring post. I have made my excuses too about that one, Hatton was fairly competitive for half a dozen rounds, but he was still very inneffective with what he was doing in those rounds. Never really landing more than single digits each round and smothering himself at every opportunity. The need for improvments should have been apparent there and then from the Hatton team.

But yes, unlike Barrera who went and made real changes that you could see emerge fight by fight, Hatton hasn't done the same. I was thinking that there were signs against Malignaggi, but Malignaggi did fight a mediocre fight and had nothing more than a jab to test Hatton with, so that was most likely a very misleading fight...with hindsight of course. Hatton does seem taken with the idea of talking himself up an awful lot these days. All that "I'm unbeatable at 140" stuff and in the pre fight build up to this too. I was going along with it thinking that we were going to see some serious technical developments from Hatton, but I feel I was misled. It seems apparent he was misleading himself too.

It seems like Graham was made the scapegoat. The changes in Hatton have been cosmetic surface changes if you will. Changing the trainer for someone who is known for defence. But Hatton has only paid lip service to those changes and been totally unable to internalise anything. He speaks it all very well, but when it comes to showing us the changes, it has all gone out the window.

One fight after declaing his indestructibility at 140 he gets blown out next time out in two off of one his worst possible showings. It's all very, very sad.

[The Shadow]

Why after catching a check left from "lil floyd" wouldnt he learn to stop lunging in? Why wouldn't he learn to put his hands up? Why wouldnt he learn to move his big head if he's going to walk right in?

I picked Hatton to win thinking he would learn these things with Sr in his corner...I picked him hoping floyd wouldnt take the easy fight with the smaller pacman...hoping that floyd would give shane the shot, but after seeing the improvement in pac's game...I'd say pacman and mosley are now the biggest threats to floyd...

Marquez only stands a chance if floyd's timing is off and manages to win enough early rounds..but i think floyd stops him late if he isnt rusty.

Let see it all at the end of the year...


PACMAN/MOSLEY vs PBF

PACMAN /MOSLEY vs CLOTTEY/COTTO

CLOTTEY/COTTO vs PBF

any of those would be fine by me...

I don't know how anyone could have possibly conceived Hatton pulling this fight off. Either you don't know boxing that well, or you were using your heart more than your brain because you're a Hatton fan.
I despised Hatton for a long time after the fiasco with the Tszyu fight, which I think still goes down in boxing history as a top 10 miscarriage of the sport of sports. But after watching the 24/7 of Hatton vs. Mayweather, I actually started liking him as a person: Respectful, mild-mannered, grateful and loyal to his fans, etc. I wanted to see him put a hurting on Mayweather like nobody's business, but I KNEW it wouldn't happen. I knew that Hatton couldn't hang with that caliber of a fighter.
To the point: Pacquiao is a phenom - plain and simple. Hattons' style was tailor made for Pacquiao. Ricky has always had a suspect chin, as I gathered when he fought Eamon MaGee - or how ever you spell that name - and got knocked down by what appeared to be a glancing blow.
In all honesty, I thought it would have been a bit more competitive with Hatton trying to BOX and HOLD, which would have been the sensible thing to do. Instead, he came in with the same mauling, aggressive style against a fighter much stronger, more talented and just a far better athlete.
People can blame Hatton; they can blame Mayweather Sr.; they can blame the cornermen, and I could go on and on. In the end, it only boils down to one thing: this was a shite situation for Hatton to take a fight against this caliber of an opponent. I think D.L.H. -- Yes, the D.L.H. that got pummeled by Pac-Man, would have beat Hatton the same night.
Its unfortunate that this 'business' doesn't reward people with character and good, humanistic qualities, but that isn't what boxing is about.
I'm just glad that Hatton lost to such a humble man. If Mayweather would have pulled such a destruction off, you wouldn't hear the end of it for a year.
I think Ricky is best served by considering retirement. Although I think he could win a title in his division again, I worry about K.O.'s that brutal and the toll they take on a fighters brain. I found no joy in seeing that happen to him. I felt really bad for Hatton and would have liked to have seen him last the full fight, but everything in me instinctually said that it would be a very short night for Ricky.
Hatton shouldn't be embarrassed, though. He gave it his best shot against one of the greatest fighters I've ever seen in any weight division. It took a pair of Iron Balls to step into that ring, and in the end you can't take that away from Hatton.
Hatton should still keep his chin high. But if he continues to box, tuck that damn thing in when fighting and learn how to be a bit more of a defensive boxer. Offense without effective defensive is easily exposed. This fight is a prime example of that.

P.S.- Mayweather Sr. proves time and time again that he's the laughing stock of the boxing community. I think Hatton should have attempted to lull McGuigan into training him. Why he chose Mayweather Sr. is beyond me, but the ultimate outcome would have been the same. It just might have lasted a little bit longer.

[JonesJrMayweather]

Why after catching a check left from "lil floyd" wouldnt he learn to stop lunging in? Why wouldn't he learn to put his hands up? Why wouldnt he learn to move his big head if he's going to walk right in?

I picked Hatton to win thinking he would learn these things with Sr in his corner...I picked him hoping floyd wouldnt take the easy fight with the smaller pacman...hoping that floyd would give shane the shot, but after seeing the improvement in pac's game...I'd say pacman and mosley are now the biggest threats to floyd...

Marquez only stands a chance if floyd's timing is off and manages to win enough early rounds..but i think floyd stops him late if he isnt rusty.

Let see it all at the end of the year...


PACMAN/MOSLEY vs PBF

PACMAN /MOSLEY vs CLOTTEY/COTTO

CLOTTEY/COTTO vs PBF

any of those would be fine by me...

I don't know how anyone could have possibly conceived Hatton pulling this fight off. Either you don't know boxing that well, or you were using your heart more than your brain because you're a Hatton fan.
I despised Hatton for a long time after the fiasco with the Tszyu fight, which I think still goes down in boxing history as a top 10 miscarriage of the sport of sports. But after watching the 24/7 of Hatton vs. Mayweather, I actually started liking him as a person: Respectful, mild-mannered, grateful and loyal to his fans, etc. I wanted to see him put a hurting on Mayweather like nobody's business, but I KNEW it wouldn't happen. I knew that Hatton couldn't hang with that caliber of a fighter.
To the point: Pacquiao is a phenom - plain and simple. Hattons' style was tailor made for Pacquiao. Ricky has always had a suspect chin, as I gathered when he fought Eamon MaGee - or how ever you spell that name - and got knocked down by what appeared to be a glancing blow.
In all honesty, I thought it would have been a bit more competitive with Hatton trying to BOX and HOLD, which would have been the sensible thing to do. Instead, he came in with the same mauling, aggressive style against a fighter much stronger, more talented and just a far better athlete.
People can blame Hatton; they can blame Mayweather Sr.; they can blame the cornermen, and I could go on and on. In the end, it only boils down to one thing: this was a shite situation for Hatton to take a fight against this caliber of an opponent. I think D.L.H. -- Yes, the D.L.H. that got pummeled by Pac-Man, would have beat Hatton the same night.
Its unfortunate that this 'business' doesn't reward people with character and good, humanistic qualities, but that isn't what boxing is about.
I'm just glad that Hatton lost to such a humble man. If Mayweather would have pulled such a destruction off, you wouldn't hear the end of it for a year.
I think Ricky is best served by considering retirement. Although I think he could win a title in his division again, I worry about K.O.'s that brutal and the toll they take on a fighters brain. I found no joy in seeing that happen to him. I felt really bad for Hatton and would have liked to have seen him last the full fight, but everything in me instinctually said that it would be a very short night for Ricky.
Hatton shouldn't be embarrassed, though. He gave it his best shot against one of the greatest fighters I've ever seen in any weight division. It took a pair of Iron Balls to step into that ring, and in the end you can't take that away from Hatton.
Hatton should still keep his chin high. But if he continues to box, tuck that damn thing in when fighting and learn how to be a bit more of a defensive boxer. Offense without effective defensive is easily exposed. This fight is a prime example of that.

P.S.- Mayweather Sr. proves time and time again that he's the laughing stock of the boxing community. I think Hatton should have attempted to lull McGuigan into training him. Why he chose Mayweather Sr. is beyond me, but the ultimate outcome would have been the same. It just might have lasted a little bit longer.

I was trying to get into the brain of PBF..i was looking past this fight to mayweather's return because i didnt for one second think he was retired. So i figure if hatton beats pacman, there's no way on earth floyd will give pacman a shot. So I was thinking he might just give Shane the fight. But it kinda worked out..because before the fight I would pick floyd to stop pacman late...now i feel a little different. I expect him to stop him late but with a few bruises this time. But I think that fight is a year away because after floyd and JMM fight to a 115-113 split there will be a rematch.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Thank you. you've just shown how ignorant you are. I said against pac,DLH LOOKED amateur. What's wrong with that? He was indeed schooled by Pac. Tell me if DLH was not schooled by Pac and I'll tell you that you haven't watched the fight.

Sad that you're still bitter about our little argument about Barrera and Khan. I could not think of any reason why you give the neg rep.

Because you're once again taking credit when it's not due and once again making pac fans looks like idiots. 99% of people agree that DLH was a weight drained shell and you think it's a great reflection on Pac.

& if I could sad click/neg rep you again for thinking that I've been waiting for an opportunity to neg rep you because of some preceived slur you've kept in your head for two months beggars belief. You're a sad little man.

On my final thoughts for PAC-Hatton fight, I pointed out Hatton is always talking that people were reading too much of PAC's last fight (against Hoya) and further claimed that he could KO Hoya earlier if it was him fighting...

Big mistake... Yes Hoya was a weight drained shell, a human punching bag... That image of Hoya blinded most people on what PAC has done impressively that night... PAC was super quick (as always)... PAC's quickness made Hoya looked like an amateur... PAC busted Hoya's face... PAC inflicted the worst beating ever on Hoya... I always cherished that photo of Hoya facing a blank space while PAC was firing bombs at his side... Totally amazing...

Hatton totally believing on the "Hoya was a weight drained shell" pronouncement made him with no respect for PAC's power... Hatton became over confident on himself thinking he's the bigger and stronger guy... I remember Hatton was asked by a reporter on how he plan to deal with PAC's power and he replied "f-u-c-k--o-f-f" ... Totally wrong mind set by Hatton... tsk tsk ...

People (like you) are reading too much in to that performance. That performance was ODLH in name only. If you're followed his career you would know that but I forgot you're a pacfan which means you only watch one guy.

Hatton messed up big time for sure and I seriously doubt he can play with the big boys anymore.

On that performance I'd pick JMM to ko him!

[XaduBoxer]

Because you're once again taking credit when it's not due and once again making pac fans looks like idiots. 99% of people agree that DLH was a weight drained shell and you think it's a great reflection on Pac.

& if I could sad click/neg rep you again for thinking that I've been waiting for an opportunity to neg rep you because of some preceived slur you've kept in your head for two months beggars belief. You're a sad little man.

On my final thoughts for PAC-Hatton fight, I pointed out Hatton is always talking that people were reading too much of PAC's last fight (against Hoya) and further claimed that he could KO Hoya earlier if it was him fighting...

Big mistake... Yes Hoya was a weight drained shell, a human punching bag... That image of Hoya blinded most people on what PAC has done impressively that night... PAC was super quick (as always)... PAC's quickness made Hoya looked like an amateur... PAC busted Hoya's face... PAC inflicted the worst beating ever on Hoya... I always cherished that photo of Hoya facing a blank space while PAC was firing bombs at his side... Totally amazing...

Hatton totally believing on the "Hoya was a weight drained shell" pronouncement made him with no respect for PAC's power... Hatton became over confident on himself thinking he's the bigger and stronger guy... I remember Hatton was asked by a reporter on how he plan to deal with PAC's power and he replied "f-u-c-k--o-f-f" ... Totally wrong mind set by Hatton... tsk tsk ...

People (like you) are reading too much in to that performance. That performance was ODLH in name only. If you're followed his career you would know that but I forgot you're a pacfan which means you only watch one guy.

Hatton messed up big time for sure and I seriously doubt he can play with the big boys anymore.

On that performance I'd pick JMM to ko him!

No matter what Hoya's previous record is, no matter what version of Hoya present that night, fact remains that he was annihilated by PAC that night... Later PAC is credited of sending Hoya to retirement...

It's Hatton who downplayed PAC's performance in that Hoya fight... He got over confident and look what happened...

I can remember David Diaz has an unsolicited advice to Hatton before the fight "Don't go toe-to-toe with Pacquiao"... I think Hatton never heard that one...
.

[Mr140]

Missy what did you disagree with what i said all you said was yup. So do not think Hatton was not a Gatti level and did not agree with Oscar thing.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Missy what did you disagree with what i said all you said was yup. So do not think Hatton was not a Gatti level and did not agree with Oscar thing.

I repped you because I agreed with you.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

On my final thoughts for PAC-Hatton fight, I pointed out Hatton is always talking that people were reading too much of PAC's last fight (against Hoya) and further claimed that he could KO Hoya earlier if it was him fighting...

Big mistake... Yes Hoya was a weight drained shell, a human punching bag... That image of Hoya blinded most people on what PAC has done impressively that night... PAC was super quick (as always)... PAC's quickness made Hoya looked like an amateur... PAC busted Hoya's face... PAC inflicted the worst beating ever on Hoya... I always cherished that photo of Hoya facing a blank space while PAC was firing bombs at his side... Totally amazing...

Hatton totally believing on the "Hoya was a weight drained shell" pronouncement made him with no respect for PAC's power... Hatton became over confident on himself thinking he's the bigger and stronger guy... I remember Hatton was asked by a reporter on how he plan to deal with PAC's power and he replied "f-u-c-k--o-f-f" ... Totally wrong mind set by Hatton... tsk tsk ...

People (like you) are reading too much in to that performance. That performance was ODLH in name only. If you're followed his career you would know that but I forgot you're a pacfan which means you only watch one guy.

Hatton messed up big time for sure and I seriously doubt he can play with the big boys anymore.

On that performance I'd pick JMM to ko him!

No matter what Hoya's previous record is, no matter what version of Hoya present that night, fact remains that he was annihilated by PAC that night... Later PAC is credited of sending Hoya to retirement...

It's Hatton who downplayed PAC's performance in that Hoya fight... He got over confident and look what happened...

I can remember David Diaz has an unsolicited advice to Hatton before the fight "Don't go toe-to-toe with Pacquiao"... I think Hatton never heard that one...
.

record shmekord.

sigh. I might as well talk to a budgies mirror. Do you even wonder why on every forum pacfans are treated with such bile?

DLH has Chavez on his record twice....however, every other person will tell you Chavez went in to both fights well past his best & once with a cut. The W is on the record but to every sane person they take it for what it is. Pac fans don't have this reasoning or if they do they choose to ignore and post like 13yr old kids giggling at the back of the bus.

Not to worry I'm sure another five pac fans will jump in the fight.