In short...royce looked like an old man, nothing like what he used to look like. He didnt look to be even as strong as he use to be. He got mauled. Why not shamrock-gracie again, it would be more even coz both have gone down hill...id tip shamrock by ko though coz even shamrock didnt get koed in one round by ortiz. Id love for ken to retire with a win....id love for him to beat ortiz in the rematch but i think hes done.