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    Default Re: after watching more of Marquez and Mayweather.

    Quote Originally Posted by KananKrus View Post
    The aggressor in this fight might likewise be the winner... therefore a draw is not too far fetched!
    Catch Weight (weight-in 144)

    Time of fight:
    Marquez works hard n the Gym? 140ish
    Mayweather 152-154

    Marquez gets hit by a guy ~14 lbs weighing more than him.... do the math!

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    Default Re: after watching more of Marquez and Mayweather.

    I see Mayweather a big favourite in this fight, for the same simple reason sweetpea gave that he's struggled with lesser boxers that were considerably smaller. Just cos Pac carried his speed and power up the divisions doesn't mean everyone can.

    IMO it's also cynical matchmaking. People were screaming blue murder when Oscar signed to fight a feather who recently moved to light at Welter, yet Floyd does exactly the same thing. Yes Pac dealt with him, but it's been pretty much universally accepted that the no.1 reason for the victory was due to him being totally washed up at 147. He also said in the interview that his targets after JMM were again the smaller Pac (of course prior to his devastating win on Sat night) and even Oscar cos they make money together (I'll admit that may have been tongue in cheek as he's playing the bad guy again.).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bomp View Post
    I see Mayweather a big favourite in this fight, for the same simple reason sweetpea gave that he's struggled with lesser boxers that were considerably smaller. Just cos Pac carried his speed and power up the divisions doesn't mean everyone can.

    IMO it's also cynical matchmaking. People were screaming blue murder when Oscar signed to fight a feather who recently moved to light at Welter, yet Floyd does exactly the same thing. Yes Pac dealt with him, but it's been pretty much universally accepted that the no.1 reason for the victory was due to him being totally washed up at 147. He also said in the interview that his targets after JMM were again the smaller Pac (of course prior to his devastating win on Sat night) and even Oscar cos they make money together (I'll admit that may have been tongue in cheek as he's playing the bad guy again.).
    Most of that stuff he said was tongue in cheek, when asked seriously afterwards, he said the only fighter he was focused on was JMM because he thinks that bar himself he is the best fighter in the world. The fact is it was Marquez who called for the fight & he got it. The Mosley fight is not actually out of the question, but both are probably waiting on Pacquiao first

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    Default Re: after watching more of Marquez and Mayweather.

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bomp View Post
    I see Mayweather a big favourite in this fight, for the same simple reason sweetpea gave that he's struggled with lesser boxers that were considerably smaller. Just cos Pac carried his speed and power up the divisions doesn't mean everyone can.

    IMO it's also cynical matchmaking. People were screaming blue murder when Oscar signed to fight a feather who recently moved to light at Welter, yet Floyd does exactly the same thing. Yes Pac dealt with him, but it's been pretty much universally accepted that the no.1 reason for the victory was due to him being totally washed up at 147. He also said in the interview that his targets after JMM were again the smaller Pac (of course prior to his devastating win on Sat night) and even Oscar cos they make money together (I'll admit that may have been tongue in cheek as he's playing the bad guy again.).
    Most of that stuff he said was tongue in cheek, when asked seriously afterwards, he said the only fighter he was focused on was JMM because he thinks that bar himself he is the best fighter in the world. The fact is it was Marquez who called for the fight & he got it. The Mosley fight is not actually out of the question, but both are probably waiting on Pacquiao first
    Skill wise he maybe right about the next best fighter being Jmm.
    We all know a great 'big fighter' will 95% of the time beat a great little fighter though. Its a real tough job ahead of Juan and his team, the preparation to get everything as close as they can without losing an edge will be borderline.Could be a quick fight or even a nasty one for Jmm with that Mexican heart and chin.

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    Default Re: after watching more of Marquez and Mayweather.

    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KananKrus View Post
    The aggressor in this fight might likewise be the winner... therefore a draw is not too far fetched!
    Catch Weight (weight-in 144)

    Time of fight:
    Marquez works hard n the Gym? 140ish
    Mayweather 152-154

    Marquez gets hit by a guy ~14 lbs weighing more than him.... do the math!
    When has Mayweather ever weighed 152-154? The most he ever weighed in at was 150 for Oscar, and he actually lost a pound come fight night by unofficial reports (He wanted to weigh-in, but Oscar didn't want to show how much bigger he was(which was reportedly 163ish). I have never seen Mayweather fight at more than 6 pounds heavier than the weigh-in. That means there will be no significant weight difference between him and Marquez, Mayweather hasn't had to dehydrate for a weigh-in since fighting at 135. Since then he has always weighed in, within 3 pounds of what he entered the ring at.

    Besides in terms of weight, its only a disadvantage for Mayweather weigh more. He wants to be as quick as possible because thats where his advantage lies, and Marquez being naturally smaller actually has an advantage in weighing less because it will give him better speed. Weight helps with 2 things 1) Strength 2) Power. Mayweather won't hit harder than Marquez at 143 because he doesn't really sink into his shots, and he doesn't physically impose himself on guys so his strength won't play a huge factor in the fight.

    What will is his talent. These are two p4p greats, and this fight will be decided on who is the better boxer, and IMO Mayweather isn't vastly superior, but clearly superior, and too much quicker.

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    Default Re: after watching more of Marquez and Mayweather.

    Much as I would like Marquez to win this fight, my head says Mayweather is likely to TKO Marquez in the late rounds.

    MAyweather has all the apparent advantages ( height, reach, speed, and even skill). No doubt Marquez has sweet counter punching but PBF has all the defensive skills to neutralize that.

    This has the making of a boring fight to casual boxing fans but for me, this is one very exciting fight.

    Regardless of who will win in this fight, imagine the fight that will come after this.

    PBF vs Pac . Whew!!!!

    Pac vs JMM. A trilogy to settle once and for all.

    I'm salivating!!!

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