Pac Vs Tsysu in their primes at 140

[BigLuke]

This wouldnt even be a fight. Manny would kill him. Manny is just too much. So strong. So fast. I mean Tsysu was a good fighter, but he never faced anything close to the caliber of opponent as Pac. Pac wins hands down.

[zhubin]

Here we go again. Pac is on fire at the moment. Mad respect to him. But some fans take it to far...thinking he will just beat anyone he faces. Styles make fights ladies and gents. Tszyu loved facing south paws. Pac's toughest fights came against Marquez...and as good as Marquez is...Tszyu had better timing and MUCH better power. Not to mention he was such an intelligent fighter. Now does this all mean that he would definitely beat Pac...of course not. After all Tszyu had some problems with agrressive fighters. BUT...no way Pac just "destroys" one of great fighters in the sport. I would lean towards Kotsya winning because of his devastating power, timing, and skills. But i think it would have been a great fight.

[Dr. Steelhammer]

If Tzysu had such what they call "timing", then how come could'nt time Hatton like Pac did?

[LEGION]

If Tzysu had such what they call "timing", then how come could'nt time Hatton like Pac did?

His balls hurt too much to concentrate

[porkypara]

Good thread!


I think that style wise Tsysu would have a good hance of lannding his big right.

Tsysu was good on th back foot and I think there is a good chance it would land at some stage.

Saying that Ricky Hattons all out asault seemed to knock KT out of his rythem so who knows.


It would be a great fight if it had happened.

[THE THIRD MAN]

It would have been a great fight, Tszyu was exceptionally good against southpaws and his punches had a paralyzing effect,his demolitions of Ruelas and Gonzalez are perfect examples of how Tszyu would break you down over rounds and just keep pounding away with incredible accuracy. I think Manny may have fallen victim to Tszyu over time, the Tszyu from 1998-2001 was an awesome force and i have no doubt had Hatton fought a younger, more active and less injury prone Tszyu then he would have been outta there by the 5th or 6th round. I think Tszyu like Marquez is a bad match up for Manny Pacquiao.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Pac would win because of Freddie Roach.

your trainer can only take you so far, and if having Roach in your corner is a reason for winning a fight WTF happened when he trained...

De La Hoya for Mayweather
B-Hop for Calzaghe
Penalosa for Lopez
Vazquez for R. Marquez (first fight, seeing how i believe Vazquez changed trainers after that fight)
etc.

in a nutshell, Mickey Rourke is still making movies for a reason...

If Tzysu had such what they call "timing", then how come could'nt time Hatton like Pac did?

don't kid yourself Tszyu is a top 5 junior welter ATG, and IMO one of the best counter punchers ever, it would be a tough fight but i see him tagging Manny with the right all night, and yea Kostya was no spring chicken when he fought Hatton, and gettin his balls bashed didn't help much either

[Dr. Steelhammer]

Pac would win because of Freddie Roach.

your trainer can only take you so far, and if having Roach in your corner is a reason for winning a fight WTF happened when he trained...

De La Hoya for Mayweather
B-Hop for Calzaghe
Penalosa for Lopez
Vazquez for R. Marquez (first fight, seeing how i believe Vazquez changed trainers after that fight)
etc.

in a nutshell, Mickey Rourke is still making movies for a reason...

If Tzysu had such what they call "timing", then how come could'nt time Hatton like Pac did?

don't kid yourself Tszyu is a top 5 junior welter ATG, and IMO one of the best counter punchers ever, it would be a tough fight but i see him tagging Manny with the right all night, and yea Kostya was no spring chicken when he fought Hatton, and gettin his balls bashed didn't help much either

You are pin pointing Roach's bad moments which is not fair and erelevant to the discussion. Those guys that you mentioned are no Manny Pacquiao.

Tyszu never fought someone like Pacquiao, who moves a lot, with blinding speed and undeniable power. Kostya wasn't a flashy quick counterpuncher. Pac would make him quit on his stool faster than Hatton did.

[Taeth]

Pac would win because of Freddie Roach.

your trainer can only take you so far, and if having Roach in your corner is a reason for winning a fight WTF happened when he trained...

De La Hoya for Mayweather
B-Hop for Calzaghe
Penalosa for Lopez
Vazquez for R. Marquez (first fight, seeing how i believe Vazquez changed trainers after that fight)
etc.

in a nutshell, Mickey Rourke is still making movies for a reason...

If Tzysu had such what they call "timing", then how come could'nt time Hatton like Pac did?

don't kid yourself Tszyu is a top 5 junior welter ATG, and IMO one of the best counter punchers ever, it would be a tough fight but i see him tagging Manny with the right all night, and yea Kostya was no spring chicken when he fought Hatton, and gettin his balls bashed didn't help much either

Vazquez improved dramatically under Roach, Hopkins beat Calzaghe, and Penalosa never stood a chacne against Lopez.

[t.manski]

Pac has just too much talent and technique and tsysu couldnt keep up with him.
He leads with a strong jab and i think that would make the diff

[levi#1BoxingFan]

Wow Jaz, you got me there haha, I mean I have no comeback to 11 year old cutdowns from a boy who watches all the HBO fights on youtube cause mommy won't order for you, gee wilikers there must be inbreeding somewhere but as far as I know me and your mom are in no way related! Not sure who it was but anyone saying Kostya would dominate Pac in four rounds is indeed a cutdown to Pacs ability, and besides thats total BS! I know I sound like a broken record and maybe its just me but I don't see how anyone can have a legit argument that Kostya's opponets pound for pound are as high a caliber as Pacquiao's?

[miron_lang]

I think PAC dominates Tsysu but the sad truth is. We will never know for sure.

[ICB]

If Tzysu had such what they call "timing", then how come could'nt time Hatton like Pac did?

Uhh Kostya Tszyu wasn't exactly at his peak, and he had trouble with swarming fighters. If you actually watch Kostya Tszyu fights, he beat some very good fast Southpaw fighters. And was excellent at timing fighters at a mid-distance range.

Which Manny Pacquiao fights at and Ricky Hatton gave Kostya Tszyu no punching room. Just like Vince Phillip's did thats why Kostya Tszyu lost, because he isn't a great inside fighter and can't get the power into his shots at that range.