Mayweather vs Pacquiao who wins?

[RozzySean]

If anybody can beat Mayweather it's Pac. The best anybody has looked against Floyd since Castillo was Zab Judah. Pac nearly as quick, hits harder, and doesn't fold. I give Pac a good chance because evidence shows that a fast southpaw can give Floyd trouble. I think the men are similar sized, and Pac's style is much more judge friendly.

The biggest knock on Pac is that his JMM victories are suspect. This comes down to matchups. Marquez is probably the toughest out there for him from a matchup point of view. In another thread, somebody accurately compares JMM's skill and to Kostya Tzsyu and points out that KT was brilliant against Pac-type fighters. He could neutralize speed with timing and counterpunch brilliantly. Well, Pac has managed to have two extremely close fights with a guy who is his worse matchup AND is P4P #2 in the world. Marquez is an amazing fighter who has gotten better with age. Even if you think he lost to Marquez, it doesn't diminish much from from the equation.

I'm not picking Pac in this fight just yet, but I will give Mayweather all credit if he takes this fight. It's by far his biggest risk, even more than Cotto. No knock on Cotto, but it comes down to the matchup.

[Skipper One]

Nobody knows Pacman's game better than Roach. He mentioned that something clicked inside him during the Diaz fight that even he was surprised. So I wouldn't rely on how he faught against Morales or JMM before. Pacquiao evolved into a complete fighter of the sport.

[Majesty]

If anybody can beat Mayweather it's Pac. The best anybody has looked against Floyd since Castillo was Zab Judah. Pac nearly as quick, hits harder, and doesn't fold. I give Pac a good chance because evidence shows that a fast southpaw can give Floyd trouble. I think the men are similar sized, and Pac's style is much more judge friendly.

The biggest knock on Pac is that his JMM victories are suspect. This comes down to matchups. Marquez is probably the toughest out there for him from a matchup point of view. In another thread, somebody accurately compares JMM's skill and to Kostya Tzsyu and points out that KT was brilliant against Pac-type fighters. He could neutralize speed with timing and counterpunch brilliantly. Well, Pac has managed to have two extremely close fights with a guy who is his worse matchup AND is P4P #2 in the world. Marquez is an amazing fighter who has gotten better with age. Even if you think he lost to Marquez, it doesn't diminish much from from the equation.

I'm not picking Pac in this fight just yet, but I will give Mayweather all credit if he takes this fight. It's by far his biggest risk, even more than Cotto. No knock on Cotto, but it comes down to the matchup.

Zab Judah is a defensive oriented counter puncher.

Pacquiao goes straight forward and tries to plow through you with smart aggression. Zab caught Mayweather with the counter left off of Mayweather lunching.

I don't think Floyd would have to worry about Pacquiao waiting for him to throw in an attempt to counter him.

[Dr. Steelhammer]

If anybody can beat Mayweather it's Pac. The best anybody has looked against Floyd since Castillo was Zab Judah. Pac nearly as quick, hits harder, and doesn't fold. I give Pac a good chance because evidence shows that a fast southpaw can give Floyd trouble. I think the men are similar sized, and Pac's style is much more judge friendly.

The biggest knock on Pac is that his JMM victories are suspect. This comes down to matchups. Marquez is probably the toughest out there for him from a matchup point of view. In another thread, somebody accurately compares JMM's skill and to Kostya Tzsyu and points out that KT was brilliant against Pac-type fighters. He could neutralize speed with timing and counterpunch brilliantly. Well, Pac has managed to have two extremely close fights with a guy who is his worse matchup AND is P4P #2 in the world. Marquez is an amazing fighter who has gotten better with age. Even if you think he lost to Marquez, it doesn't diminish much from from the equation.

I'm not picking Pac in this fight just yet, but I will give Mayweather all credit if he takes this fight. It's by far his biggest risk, even more than Cotto. No knock on Cotto, but it comes down to the matchup.

Pacquiao goes straight forward and tries to plow through you with smart aggression.

That's no longer the case. I've noticed his elusiveness during the Pac-JMM rematch.





Pacquiao didn't receive one scratch nor tiny mouse on his face when he fought Diaz, DLH, and Hatton. That should tell you something.

[Majesty]

If anybody can beat Mayweather it's Pac. The best anybody has looked against Floyd since Castillo was Zab Judah. Pac nearly as quick, hits harder, and doesn't fold. I give Pac a good chance because evidence shows that a fast southpaw can give Floyd trouble. I think the men are similar sized, and Pac's style is much more judge friendly.

The biggest knock on Pac is that his JMM victories are suspect. This comes down to matchups. Marquez is probably the toughest out there for him from a matchup point of view. In another thread, somebody accurately compares JMM's skill and to Kostya Tzsyu and points out that KT was brilliant against Pac-type fighters. He could neutralize speed with timing and counterpunch brilliantly. Well, Pac has managed to have two extremely close fights with a guy who is his worse matchup AND is P4P #2 in the world. Marquez is an amazing fighter who has gotten better with age. Even if you think he lost to Marquez, it doesn't diminish much from from the equation.

I'm not picking Pac in this fight just yet, but I will give Mayweather all credit if he takes this fight. It's by far his biggest risk, even more than Cotto. No knock on Cotto, but it comes down to the matchup.

Pacquiao goes straight forward and tries to plow through you with smart aggression.

That's no longer the case. I've noticed his elusiveness during the Pac-JMM rematch.





Pacquiao didn't receive one scratch nor tiny mouse on his face when he fought Diaz, DLH, and Hatton. That should tell you something.

Marquez isn't a guy used to going forward. He is a wonderful precise counter puncher who can go to war and find holes and eventually can break down guys. Actually Marquez is actually at his greatest going forward mostly only when he is finishing someone, which astounds me. But Mayweather is faster then that and would pick his shots against Pacquiao better as I don't think he'd bull in trying to hit him like that, he'd make Pacquiao come forward and try to counter him and even if Pacquiao moved, he wouldn't have hit Mayweather anyway with the first shot Mayweather tried to counter.


People say that people have a plan against Pacquiao before they realise his speed is too much, same can be said for Mayweather.

[Rantcatrat]

If anybody can beat Mayweather it's Pac. The best anybody has looked against Floyd since Castillo was Zab Judah. Pac nearly as quick, hits harder, and doesn't fold. I give Pac a good chance because evidence shows that a fast southpaw can give Floyd trouble. I think the men are similar sized, and Pac's style is much more judge friendly.

I disagree. Any of the top natural welterweights have as good of a chance against PBF. Maybe better. Pac is moving up to fight Floyd. A bigger version of Pac would beat PBF.

[Pavlik]

If anybody can beat Mayweather it's Pac. The best anybody has looked against Floyd since Castillo was Zab Judah. Pac nearly as quick, hits harder, and doesn't fold. I give Pac a good chance because evidence shows that a fast southpaw can give Floyd trouble. I think the men are similar sized, and Pac's style is much more judge friendly.

I disagree. Any of the top natural welterweights have as good of a chance against PBF. Maybe better. Pac is moving up to fight Floyd. A bigger version of Pac would beat PBF.

Exactamento!!! IMO A bigger version of PAC could pose problems for almost anybody. PAC's only weakness right now is him being small, if he was at least the size(height and frame) of Mosely I'd choose him to beat even Paul Williams.

[XaduBoxer]

PAC was successful against great Mexican boxers...

PAC was very impressive against a Mancunian (White) Mexican...

Maybe PAC will be successful too against a "Black Mexican"...

[Chino]

Saddoooo Saddooooooooo...you are one of the many reasons why I want Pac to lose .

Pacquiao didn't receive one scratch nor tiny mouse on his face when he fought Diaz, DLH, and Hatton. That should tell you something

...against Diaz and ODLH, eh? Mentioning them and even in the same line kind of diminishes what Pac has accomplished in more challenging fights he has come out victorious. If I was a PacFan, I would stay away from mentioning Diaz and ODLH really.

Anyways, those videos you posted are good, but just a small part of what happened that whole night vs JMM 2 and the first one as well. Remember the times where Manny was on wobbly feet and almost going down from body punches? He has shown to improve somewhat in his defense but he can still get connected, something we are yet to see in Floyd Mayweather Jr. No wonder he leaves his fights with not a single scratch on his face. Maybe Pac can change that or maybe not.

[XaduBoxer]

Saddoooo Saddooooooooo...you are one of the many reasons why I want Pac to lose .

Are you referring to Boss Saddo??

BTW, don't hate a boxer because of his fans... That's not sensible enough...

Hate his misbehaving fans (if there's any), not the boxer... OK??
.

[RP33]

Saddoooo Saddooooooooo...you are one of the many reasons why I want Pac to lose .

Are you referring to Boss Saddo??

BTW, don't hate a boxer because of his fans... That's not sensible enough...

Hate his misbehaving fans (if there's any), not the boxer... OK??
.

i'd guess he's talking about you..

and i hate Pacquiao because of you too.. as well as a number of posters on here..

We've already gone over the whole, "you do a terrible job of representing your fighter and actually make it harder for other people to like your fighter because of your ridiculousness" in other threads.. you're a fan-boy, it's disgusting, but i'm used to it.. but don't even try to defend it.

[Chino]

Saddoooo Saddooooooooo...you are one of the many reasons why I want Pac to lose .

Are you referring to Boss Saddo??

Naaaah, not Boss Saddo. He cheers for more than one boxer, he see's strengths and weaknesses in fighters, two outcomes to the fights and their opponents, etc.

[Kel]

PAC was successful against great Mexican boxers...

PAC was very impressive against a Mancunian (White) Mexican...

Maybe PAC will be successful too against a "Black Mexican"...

That sounds like something Larry Merchant would come out with.

[USAalltheway]

Pac's currently riding a wave of success similar to Trinidad when he moved up in weight and rolled through David Reid and William Joppy, and because of those devastating wins his fanbase thought he would just as easily steamroll a world class technician like Bernard Hopkins. Just the same, the Pac Man train is going to come to a dead halt when he shockingly finds himself in the ring with a fighter who will intellectually walk circles around him. This won't even be Floyd's toughest fight.

[fan johnny]

Pac's currently riding a wave of success similar to Trinidad when he moved up in weight and rolled through David Reid and William Joppy, and because of those devastating wins his fanbase thought he would just as easily steamroll a world class technician like Bernard Hopkins. Just the same, the Pac Man train is going to come to a dead halt when he shockingly finds himself in the ring with a fighter who will intellectually walk circles around him. This won't even be Floyd's toughest fight.

That is just ridiculous! You write that like Floyd Jr. is the Albert Einstein of boxing. The boy looks good when he boxes, it doesn't make him a genius. I see people write and talk about how Pac "looks" amateurish. The fact is a punch doesn't have to "look good" to be "effective" or even have "skill" behind it. If Pac hits Floyd Jr. with the same punch he hit Hatton, the fight would over. Even if Floyd has the ability to figure out Pac by the 4th round he still has to make it to the 4th round.