Pac Vs Tsysu in their primes at 140

**Gandalf** · 05-10-2009 02:20 AM

Prime Kostya knocks out Manny in the final minute of round two.

No, but in all seriousness, I think he was too good for Manny and would hurt him BAD. If he was getting rocked at 130, Kostya would be making his legs twitch involuntarily and on a regular basis. He wouldn't last. And that's no slur on Manny, it's just that Kostya was that good at his best. Kostya was a good technical fighter and wouldn't hand Manny his chin on a dish.

**Snakey** · 05-10-2009 03:50 AM

Someone in this thread likened Kostya to JMM. And he was, he was a very smart fighter. He had alot of tools to use, he didnt just have a dynamite right hand. He knew how to set you up, trap ya. He was a great pressure fighter that could cut off the ring very well. Id say he would time manny with the right hand all night.

**THE THIRD MAN** · 05-10-2009 04:05 AM

Originally Posted by snakey

Someone in this thread likened Kostya to JMM. And he was, he was a very smart fighter. He had alot of tools to use, he didnt just have a dynamite right hand. He knew how to set you up, trap ya. He was a great pressure fighter that could cut off the ring very well. Id say he would time manny with the right hand all night.

Tszyu would stalk his opponents and strike at will with great accuracy, making the most of his opportunities. Manny would be in for a torrid time with Tszyu, he didn't handle Marquez all that well and i don't see him handling Tszyu at all. I see Tszyu winning by a late stoppage in rounds 9-10.

**Snakey** · 05-10-2009 04:09 AM

Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN

Originally Posted by snakey

Someone in this thread likened Kostya to JMM. And he was, he was a very smart fighter. He had alot of tools to use, he didnt just have a dynamite right hand. He knew how to set you up, trap ya. He was a great pressure fighter that could cut off the ring very well. Id say he would time manny with the right hand all night.

Tszyu would stalk his opponents and strike at will with great accuracy, making the most of his opportunities. Manny would be in for a torrid time with Tszyu, he didn't handle Marquez all that well and i don't see him handling Tszyu at all. I see Tszyu winning by a late stoppage in rounds 9-10.

Mate i honestly dont think manny makes it past round 4. Manny puts all his weight into his left hand, could you imagine if Tszyu timed him and connected with the right at that point in time. Lights out. I watched the hatton fight and said to my old man...could you imagine kostya vs pac back in the day. Just so many openings tszyu would love, dont get me wrong..awesome performance by manny but i think he would be tailor made for kostya.

**levi#1BoxingFan** · 05-10-2009 12:36 PM

Come ooooon people....Pac doesnt last past round four? Is there a carbon monoxide buildup in your room? Ive said it once and ill say it again, who has the more impressive wins? Whos faced better opponets? I want someone to give me a list of Tsysu's top three best wins and I know that it doesnt even come close to manny's wins. Pound for pound barrera was one of the best in the world and Pac knocks him out in the 11th! Thats just one of several. I said it on my last post that I think everyone wants to pick some fighter from the past over a fighter thats having lots of success and fame, everyone wants some old "Rocky" to beat the succesful guy today. I dont understand why no one wants to give Manny any respect for what he's accomplished lately. In Manny's past five fights or so i've heard every corner say the same thing, "he's just to fast", it would be no different against Kosta! Southpaw or orthadox i dont care, you cant compare Pacquiao's skills to Tsysu's other opponets, he's in a totally different league. I think more fights Manny has the more people will realize how great of a fighter he really is!

**ElTerribleMorales** · 05-10-2009 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by levi#1BoxingFan

Come ooooon people....Pac doesnt last past round four? Is there a carbon monoxide buildup in your room? Ive said it once and ill say it again, who has the more impressive wins? Whos faced better opponets? I want someone to give me a list of Tsysu's top three best wins and I know that it doesnt even come close to manny's wins. Pound for pound barrera was one of the best in the world and Pac knocks him out in the 11th! Thats just one of several. I said it on my last post that I think everyone wants to pick some fighter from the past over a fighter thats having lots of success and fame, everyone wants some old "Rocky" to beat the succesful guy today. I dont understand why no one wants to give Manny any respect for what he's accomplished lately. In Manny's past five fights or so i've heard every corner say the same thing, "he's just to fast", it would be no different against Kosta! Southpaw or orthadox i dont care, you cant compare Pacquiao's skills to Tsysu's other opponets, he's in a totally different league. I think more fights Manny has the more people will realize how great of a fighter he really is!

dude take your pills and calm down, i haven't read anything on here about someone not giving Pacquiao props on what he's accomplished, but sorry Manny isn't p4p #1 ever, that still goes to Robinson, IMO he doesn't even crack top 20 p4p, i have him in my top 30, ranked #23 i believe, and that's still saying something, you can't rag on the fact of Manny's resume, because styles make fights, and it's clear on Manny's record that a fighter by the name of Juan Manuel Marquez has given him fits both times they've faced each other, and MANY believe that it could easily be 2-0 in favor of JMM, Kostya Tszyu is like a bigger stronger Marquez, not as fast but IMO with better timing, always calm and never lost his head in the ring, just cause Manny has been on a roll doesn't mean he's unbeatable, cause everyone is, saying that Tszyu one of the greatest jr welter champions ever could KO Pacquiao in 4 isn't ludicrous, he's already been KTFO twice in the 3rd, by smaller less skilled opponants, yea it was in the beginning of his career but it still happened, and seeing how we're talking PRIME for PRIME, i'd pick Tszyu over Pacquiao, and to win by TKO by no later than the 6th

**Master** · 05-10-2009 01:09 PM

Manny Pac has not finished his career so unfair to judge. The KO over Hatton has confused me of his ability. Tszyu had the bomb of a right hand but if that did not land then he would be in trouble. At this moment in time you have to go with Kostya but if Manny Pac beats more greats then it is the Pac Man.

**BoomBoom** · 05-10-2009 01:13 PM

I think a prime Tszyu would take both Hatton and Pac apart. I actually think it takes him a little longer to stop Hatton though. Pac really has the perfect style for Kostya. He could pull the trigger on his right hand like no one else. Hatton and Oscar didnt have a right hand anywhere near as precise and powerful as Tszyu. Marquez was able to time him and find the target, but there wasnt quite enough power there to hurt Pac badly. Tszyu beats him imo by early stoppage. I think a lot of people forget that styles make fights and no fighter is invinsible reguardless of how many good performances he has.