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    Default Re: Pac Vs Tsysu in their primes at 140

    Come ooooon people....Pac doesnt last past round four? Is there a carbon monoxide buildup in your room? Ive said it once and ill say it again, who has the more impressive wins? Whos faced better opponets? I want someone to give me a list of Tsysu's top three best wins and I know that it doesnt even come close to manny's wins. Pound for pound barrera was one of the best in the world and Pac knocks him out in the 11th! Thats just one of several. I said it on my last post that I think everyone wants to pick some fighter from the past over a fighter thats having lots of success and fame, everyone wants some old "Rocky" to beat the succesful guy today. I dont understand why no one wants to give Manny any respect for what he's accomplished lately. In Manny's past five fights or so i've heard every corner say the same thing, "he's just to fast", it would be no different against Kosta! Southpaw or orthadox i dont care, you cant compare Pacquiao's skills to Tsysu's other opponets, he's in a totally different league. I think more fights Manny has the more people will realize how great of a fighter he really is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by levi#1BoxingFan View Post
    Come ooooon people....Pac doesnt last past round four? Is there a carbon monoxide buildup in your room? Ive said it once and ill say it again, who has the more impressive wins? Whos faced better opponets? I want someone to give me a list of Tsysu's top three best wins and I know that it doesnt even come close to manny's wins. Pound for pound barrera was one of the best in the world and Pac knocks him out in the 11th! Thats just one of several. I said it on my last post that I think everyone wants to pick some fighter from the past over a fighter thats having lots of success and fame, everyone wants some old "Rocky" to beat the succesful guy today. I dont understand why no one wants to give Manny any respect for what he's accomplished lately. In Manny's past five fights or so i've heard every corner say the same thing, "he's just to fast", it would be no different against Kosta! Southpaw or orthadox i dont care, you cant compare Pacquiao's skills to Tsysu's other opponets, he's in a totally different league. I think more fights Manny has the more people will realize how great of a fighter he really is!
    dude take your pills and calm down, i haven't read anything on here about someone not giving Pacquiao props on what he's accomplished, but sorry Manny isn't p4p #1 ever, that still goes to Robinson, IMO he doesn't even crack top 20 p4p, i have him in my top 30, ranked #23 i believe, and that's still saying something, you can't rag on the fact of Manny's resume, because styles make fights, and it's clear on Manny's record that a fighter by the name of Juan Manuel Marquez has given him fits both times they've faced each other, and MANY believe that it could easily be 2-0 in favor of JMM, Kostya Tszyu is like a bigger stronger Marquez, not as fast but IMO with better timing, always calm and never lost his head in the ring, just cause Manny has been on a roll doesn't mean he's unbeatable, cause everyone is, saying that Tszyu one of the greatest jr welter champions ever could KO Pacquiao in 4 isn't ludicrous, he's already been KTFO twice in the 3rd, by smaller less skilled opponants, yea it was in the beginning of his career but it still happened, and seeing how we're talking PRIME for PRIME, i'd pick Tszyu over Pacquiao, and to win by TKO by no later than the 6th

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    Default Re: Pac Vs Tsysu in their primes at 140

    Manny Pac has not finished his career so unfair to judge. The KO over Hatton has confused me of his ability. Tszyu had the bomb of a right hand but if that did not land then he would be in trouble. At this moment in time you have to go with Kostya but if Manny Pac beats more greats then it is the Pac Man.
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    the thing that annoys me is that if anyone says that someone can beat Pacquiao, some of his fans go crazy saying that that is an insult , as if he's some kind of god, he has 3 losses for something, he can be outboxed as JMM showed, and he can be hurt as JMM and Larios showed, he's looked great in last few fights, and is definately on a roll, he deserves the #1 p4p spot right now, but he's still hardly unbeatable, like i've said time and time again, no one is

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    elteriib...whatever you are the one who needs to take a good look in the mirror man honestly? "Pac hasnt even gotten into my top 20, im gonna go watch star trek now guys". Do you think I care about your top 20, 30, or whatever number you plan on going to? Thats about as irrelevant as Hatton is right now! Im not some fan who just jumped on Pacquiao's ban wagon after his last two fights. I still didnt get your list of Tsysu's top three most notable wins?? Im guessing the reason you didnt give it is because it isnt impressive! Im not acting like Pacquiao is a boxing God, just that he's at the top of his game right now and he would throttle Kostya Tsysu!

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    If the Hatton-Pacquiao fight never happened... Hatton wins by a knockout! Hurray!

    If the DeLaHoya- Pacquiao fight did not happen... DeLaHoya wins by stoppage! Pandemonium!

    Kostya-Pacquiao? Kostya by a knockout... absolutely!

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    Last edited by KananKrus; 05-11-2009 at 12:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KananKrus View Post
    If the Hatton-Pacquiao fight never happened... Hatton wins by a knockout! Hurray!

    If the DeLaHoya- Pacquiao fight did not happen... DeLaHoya wins by stoppage! Pandemonium!

    Kosta-Pacquiao? Kosta by a knockout... absolutely!

    Reality holds no secrets to the learned.

    That's why I don't involved much in fantasy match-up discussions coz we will never know the real outcome... It's nice to discuss but not much of real use...

    I prefer to discuss upcoming actual fights...
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    Default Re: Pac Vs Tsysu in their primes at 140

    Quote Originally Posted by KananKrus View Post
    If the Hatton-Pacquiao fight never happened... Hatton wins by a knockout! Hurray!

    If the DeLaHoya- Pacquiao fight did not happen... DeLaHoya wins by stoppage! Pandemonium!

    Kostya-Pacquiao? Kostya by a knockout... absolutely!

    Reality holds no secrets to the learned.
    You can add the Barrera fight as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by levi#1BoxingFan View Post
    elteriib...whatever you are the one who needs to take a good look in the mirror man honestly? "Pac hasnt even gotten into my top 20, im gonna go watch star trek now guys". Do you think I care about your top 20, 30, or whatever number you plan on going to? Thats about as irrelevant as Hatton is right now! Im not some fan who just jumped on Pacquiao's ban wagon after his last two fights. I still didnt get your list of Tsysu's top three most notable wins?? Im guessing the reason you didnt give it is because it isnt impressive! Im not acting like Pacquiao is a boxing God, just that he's at the top of his game right now and he would throttle Kostya Tsysu!
    you're entitle to your opinion, but like you said, who gives a fuck about some Pacquiao fanboy's opinion, many will tell you the same i said, Manny isn't a top 20 p4p ATG, much less a top 10, i don't jump on any fighters bandwagon, i'm a fan of fighters but don't rule out the fact that they can lose to another fighter, and unlike some Pacquiao or Filipino fans in general (NOT ALL) never see one of them losing, Tszyu pretty much dominated the division for basically from 1997 to 2005, wins over Hugo Pineda, Zab Judah (when he was undefeated), Sharmba Mitchell, Julio Cesar Chavez (equivalent to PAC's over DLH), Roger Mayweather, Rafael Ruelas, Jessie James Leija, Ben Tackie

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    Default Re: Pac Vs Tsysu in their primes at 140

    that list is very unimpressive......need i say more!

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    Default Re: Pac Vs Tsysu in their primes at 140

    I think a prime Tszyu would take both Hatton and Pac apart. I actually think it takes him a little longer to stop Hatton though. Pac really has the perfect style for Kostya. He could pull the trigger on his right hand like no one else. Hatton and Oscar didnt have a right hand anywhere near as precise and powerful as Tszyu. Marquez was able to time him and find the target, but there wasnt quite enough power there to hurt Pac badly. Tszyu beats him imo by early stoppage. I think a lot of people forget that styles make fights and no fighter is invinsible reguardless of how many good performances he has.
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