Pac Vs Tsysu in their primes at 140

[ICB]

I know Pac has only had one fight at this weight but if these two had fought at their primes who would win ?

I think Kostya Tszyu beats Manny Pacquiao styles make fights, Kostya Tszyu had trouble with swarming fighters like Ricky Hatton, Vince Phillips. But he was good at timing fast boxers like Sharmba Mitchelll, Zab Judah.

I've always said Kostya Tszyu had excellent timing, and his mid distance shots were a thing of beauty, Manny Pacquiao maybe a better fighter P4P but style's wise i think Kostya Tszyu stops Manny Pacquiao in the mid rounds.

[ICB]

If Tzysu had such what they call "timing", then how come could'nt time Hatton like Pac did?

Uhh Kostya Tszyu wasn't exactly at his peak, and he had trouble with swarming fighters. If you actually watch Kostya Tszyu fights, he beat some very good fast Southpaw fighters. And was excellent at timing fighters at a mid-distance range.

Which Manny Pacquiao fights at and Ricky Hatton gave Kostya Tszyu no punching room. Just like Vince Phillip's did thats why Kostya Tszyu lost, because he isn't a great inside fighter and can't get the power into his shots at that range.

[levi#1BoxingFan]

elteriib...whatever you are the one who needs to take a good look in the mirror man honestly? "Pac hasnt even gotten into my top 20, im gonna go watch star trek now guys". Do you think I care about your top 20, 30, or whatever number you plan on going to? Thats about as irrelevant as Hatton is right now! Im not some fan who just jumped on Pacquiao's ban wagon after his last two fights. I still didnt get your list of Tsysu's top three most notable wins?? Im guessing the reason you didnt give it is because it isnt impressive! Im not acting like Pacquiao is a boxing God, just that he's at the top of his game right now and he would throttle Kostya Tsysu!

[KananKrus]

If the Hatton-Pacquiao fight never happened... Hatton wins by a knockout! Hurray!

If the DeLaHoya- Pacquiao fight did not happen... DeLaHoya wins by stoppage! Pandemonium!

Kostya-Pacquiao? Kostya by a knockout... absolutely!

Reality holds no secrets to the learned.

[ElTerribleMorales]

elteriib...whatever you are the one who needs to take a good look in the mirror man honestly? "Pac hasnt even gotten into my top 20, im gonna go watch star trek now guys". Do you think I care about your top 20, 30, or whatever number you plan on going to? Thats about as irrelevant as Hatton is right now! Im not some fan who just jumped on Pacquiao's ban wagon after his last two fights. I still didnt get your list of Tsysu's top three most notable wins?? Im guessing the reason you didnt give it is because it isnt impressive! Im not acting like Pacquiao is a boxing God, just that he's at the top of his game right now and he would throttle Kostya Tsysu!

you're entitle to your opinion, but like you said, who gives a fuck about some Pacquiao fanboy's opinion, many will tell you the same i said, Manny isn't a top 20 p4p ATG, much less a top 10, i don't jump on any fighters bandwagon, i'm a fan of fighters but don't rule out the fact that they can lose to another fighter, and unlike some Pacquiao or Filipino fans in general (NOT ALL) never see one of them losing, Tszyu pretty much dominated the division for basically from 1997 to 2005, wins over Hugo Pineda, Zab Judah (when he was undefeated), Sharmba Mitchell, Julio Cesar Chavez (equivalent to PAC's over DLH), Roger Mayweather, Rafael Ruelas, Jessie James Leija, Ben Tackie

[levi#1BoxingFan]

that list is very unimpressive......need i say more!

[ElTerribleMorales]

that list is very unimpressive......need i say more!

nope....with that you've done more than enough to prove that you're an idiot

[Rocky Balboa]

that list is very unimpressive......need i say more!

nope....with that you've done more than enough to prove that you're an idiot

x2, agreed with everything you've said ElTerribleMorales

[ElTerribleMorales]

that list is very unimpressive......need i say more!

nope....with that you've done more than enough to prove that you're an idiot

x2, agreed with everything you've said ElTerribleMorales

the thing is, in no way am i slamming Manny Pacquiao by saying that Tszyu would beat him, don't get what the dudes prob is

[Pavlik]

The biggest knock on PAC IMO his ability to take a punch from a natural junior welter or any bigger fighter. If he was as big as anybody he would face in the near future he would absolutely destroy them. To reiterate PAC is just damn small, luckily he heh as incredible POWER to WEIGHT ratio.

[JazMerkin]

nope....with that you've done more than enough to prove that you're an idiot

x2, agreed with everything you've said ElTerribleMorales

the thing is, in no way am i slamming Manny Pacquiao by saying that Tszyu would beat him, don't get what the dudes prob is

Probably some form of inbreeding in his ancestry that means he is genetically programmed to behave like a dick

[ElTerribleMorales]

The biggest knock on PAC IMO his ability to take a punch from a natural junior welter or any bigger fighter. If he was as big as anybody he would face in the near future he would absolutely destroy them. To reiterate PAC is just damn small, luckily he heh as incredible POWER to WEIGHT ratio.

Manny's chin is good, not great, he's been rocked plenty of times, and against small fighters, Larios, Morales, and JMM all rocked him, and his 2 KO losses were at 106, he's got a good chin, but he's in no way got a set of granite chops to walk through people in the higher weight classes punches

[XaduBoxer]

If the Hatton-Pacquiao fight never happened... Hatton wins by a knockout! Hurray!

If the DeLaHoya- Pacquiao fight did not happen... DeLaHoya wins by stoppage! Pandemonium!

Kosta-Pacquiao? Kosta by a knockout... absolutely!

Reality holds no secrets to the learned.

That's why I don't involved much in fantasy match-up discussions coz we will never know the real outcome... It's nice to discuss but not much of real use...

I prefer to discuss upcoming actual fights...
.

[Taeth]

Pac would win because of Freddie Roach.

your trainer can only take you so far, and if having Roach in your corner is a reason for winning a fight WTF happened when he trained...

De La Hoya for Mayweather
B-Hop for Calzaghe
Penalosa for Lopez
Vazquez for R. Marquez (first fight, seeing how i believe Vazquez changed trainers after that fight)
etc.

in a nutshell, Mickey Rourke is still making movies for a reason...

If Tzysu had such what they call "timing", then how come could'nt time Hatton like Pac did?

don't kid yourself Tszyu is a top 5 junior welter ATG, and IMO one of the best counter punchers ever, it would be a tough fight but i see him tagging Manny with the right all night, and yea Kostya was no spring chicken when he fought Hatton, and gettin his balls bashed didn't help much either

Vazquez improved dramatically under Roach, Hopkins beat Calzaghe, and Penalosa never stood a chacne against Lopez.

[t.manski]

Pac has just too much talent and technique and tsysu couldnt keep up with him.
He leads with a strong jab and i think that would make the diff