nigel benn on roy jones

[eleven]

benn was great to watch a would give him more of a chance with rjj than eubank for me benn was far better and maybe benn could of been the 1st guy to ko rjj

[GAME]

Jones was untoucable back in the day. He was more invincible looking than Floyd or Shane looked in their primes.

Benn knew the score and he was honest enough to admit it .The Nardiello fight was his first on sky and I dont think the sky bosses liked ihim saying that cuz someone made him take that statement back . In his next fight vs Danny Perez on the Bruno undercard, Benn said I want to be number 1 second to nobody! but in that interview he said he didnt mind being number 2 to roy Jones

[HattonTheHammer]

Jones was untoucable back in the day. He was more invincible looking than Floyd or Shane looked in their primes.

Benn knew teh score and he was honest enough to admit it by that Nardiello fight was his first on sky and I dont think the sky bosses liked it cuz someone made him take that staement back . In his next fight vs Danny Perez on the Bruno undercard, Benn said I want to be number 1 second to nobody! but in that interview he said he didnt mind being number 2 to roy Jones

jones was indeed completely untouchable against everybody he fought

But i still cant help but think the likes of toney/mccullum were never quite the equal of benn/eubank who at the time were world class champions who never got a real go stateside!

Jones in his apparent "untouchable" prime fought a hell of a lot of complete unknowns!!

[Taeth]

Jones was untoucable back in the day. He was more invincible looking than Floyd or Shane looked in their primes.

Benn knew teh score and he was honest enough to admit it by that Nardiello fight was his first on sky and I dont think the sky bosses liked it cuz someone made him take that staement back . In his next fight vs Danny Perez on the Bruno undercard, Benn said I want to be number 1 second to nobody! but in that interview he said he didnt mind being number 2 to roy Jones

jones was indeed completely untouchable against everybody he fought

But i still cant help but think the likes of toney/mccullum were never quite the equal of benn/eubank who at the time were world class champions who never got a real go stateside!

Jones in his apparent "untouchable" prime fought a hell of a lot of complete unknowns!!

Not trying to sound condescending, but Toney and McCullum are two of the finest fighters of the last twenty years in all of boxing, Benn and Eubanks fall spectacularly short of these two.

[HattonTheHammer]

Jones was untoucable back in the day. He was more invincible looking than Floyd or Shane looked in their primes.

Benn knew teh score and he was honest enough to admit it by that Nardiello fight was his first on sky and I dont think the sky bosses liked it cuz someone made him take that staement back . In his next fight vs Danny Perez on the Bruno undercard, Benn said I want to be number 1 second to nobody! but in that interview he said he didnt mind being number 2 to roy Jones

jones was indeed completely untouchable against everybody he fought

But i still cant help but think the likes of toney/mccullum were never quite the equal of benn/eubank who at the time were world class champions who never got a real go stateside!

Jones in his apparent "untouchable" prime fought a hell of a lot of complete unknowns!!

Not trying to sound condescending, but Toney and McCullum are two of the finest fighters of the last twenty years in all of boxing, Benn and Eubanks fall spectacularly short of these two.

you may have an argument for mccullum but i really dont see what the fascination was with toney.

Benn/Eubank were primarily seen by the american tv companys promoting jones as too big a risk for too little to gain hence the reason they never got to make their make stateside.

Had they of been in their prime nowadays ive no doubts in my mind both would currently be able to walk through the likes of kessler, froch, bute

[JazMerkin]

jones was indeed completely untouchable against everybody he fought

But i still cant help but think the likes of toney/mccullum were never quite the equal of benn/eubank who at the time were world class champions who never got a real go stateside!

Jones in his apparent "untouchable" prime fought a hell of a lot of complete unknowns!!

Not trying to sound condescending, but Toney and McCullum are two of the finest fighters of the last twenty years in all of boxing, Benn and Eubanks fall spectacularly short of these two.

you may have an argument for mccullum but i really dont see what the fascination was with toney.

Benn/Eubank were primarily seen by the american tv companys promoting jones as too big a risk for too little to gain hence the reason they never got to make their make stateside.

Had they of been in their prime nowadays ive no doubts in my mind both would currently be able to walk through the likes of kessler, froch, bute

I disagree in that I think Toney was one hell of a fighter, and if he had of had a good attitude, he would've really been something special, he's an amazingly naturally gifted fighter, just without almost any resolve or dedication to the sport.

I agree these guys in their prime would walk through most of the MW/SMW of present. I also think that some in the US drastically underrate the likes of Eubank & Benn. I don't think Benn would of beaten Jones, particularly not post-McClellan but he would have given him a good fight. Would have been better than RJJ fighting punching bags like Thornton

[HattonTheHammer]

Not trying to sound condescending, but Toney and McCullum are two of the finest fighters of the last twenty years in all of boxing, Benn and Eubanks fall spectacularly short of these two.

you may have an argument for mccullum but i really dont see what the fascination was with toney.

Benn/Eubank were primarily seen by the american tv companys promoting jones as too big a risk for too little to gain hence the reason they never got to make their make stateside.

Had they of been in their prime nowadays ive no doubts in my mind both would currently be able to walk through the likes of kessler, froch, bute

I disagree in that I think Toney was one hell of a fighter, and if he had of had a good attitude, he would've really been something special, he's an amazingly naturally gifted fighter, just without almost any resolve or dedication to the sport.

I agree these guys in their prime would walk through most of the MW/SMW of present. I also think that some in the US drastically underrate the likes of Eubank & Benn. I don't think Benn would of beaten Jones, particularly not post-McClellan but he would have given him a good fight. Would have been better than RJJ fighting punching bags like Thornton

Eubank would of had a far greater opportunity of beating jones than benn would of done

Nigel for all his heart and spirit was at times too aggresive a fighter and often got caught out coming in which i suspect jones would of been able to do all night long.

Eubank on the other hand had the power and the ability to box off the back foot. Instead of attempting to weigh in at jones for 12rds he would of bided his moments and picked his attacks.

Jones-Eubank both in their primes would of been a complete pick`em fight!!

[Taeth]

jones was indeed completely untouchable against everybody he fought

But i still cant help but think the likes of toney/mccullum were never quite the equal of benn/eubank who at the time were world class champions who never got a real go stateside!

Jones in his apparent "untouchable" prime fought a hell of a lot of complete unknowns!!

Not trying to sound condescending, but Toney and McCullum are two of the finest fighters of the last twenty years in all of boxing, Benn and Eubanks fall spectacularly short of these two.

you may have an argument for mccullum but i really dont see what the fascination was with toney.

Benn/Eubank were primarily seen by the american tv companys promoting jones as too big a risk for too little to gain hence the reason they never got to make their make stateside.

Had they of been in their prime nowadays ive no doubts in my mind both would currently be able to walk through the likes of kessler, froch, bute

Kessler, no way, he is so underrated on here. Without being able to spar or hit the bags, Kessler still gave Calzaghe one hell of a fight. Kessler is on their level.

Also watch Toney in his prime then get back to me. Maybe you haven't seen his middleweight or SMW stuff in awhile.

Benn and Eubanks didn't want to come over to the states and still not get a 50/50 split. People conveniently priced themselves out of a fights with Roy JOnes Jr.

Also to ICB, I am not sure if Roy could stop Eubanks or not, but I would be pretty sure he could hurt Eubanks, He's hurt guys with the best chins in the business like Merqui Sosa, Malinga, Castro, even James Toney he hurt to the body at one point, Reggie Johnson, Virgill Hill(a big cruiserweight now)".

[skel1983]

Not trying to sound condescending, but Toney and McCullum are two of the finest fighters of the last twenty years in all of boxing, Benn and Eubanks fall spectacularly short of these two.

you may have an argument for mccullum but i really dont see what the fascination was with toney.

Benn/Eubank were primarily seen by the american tv companys promoting jones as too big a risk for too little to gain hence the reason they never got to make their make stateside.

Had they of been in their prime nowadays ive no doubts in my mind both would currently be able to walk through the likes of kessler, froch, bute

Kessler, no way, he is so underrated on here. Without being able to spar or hit the bags, Kessler still gave Calzaghe one hell of a fight. Kessler is on their level.

Also watch Toney in his prime then get back to me. Maybe you haven't seen his middleweight or SMW stuff in awhile.

Benn and Eubanks didn't want to come over to the states and still not get a 50/50 split. People conveniently priced themselves out of a fights with Roy JOnes Jr.

Also to ICB, I am not sure if Roy could stop Eubanks or not, but I would be pretty sure he could hurt Eubanks, He's hurt guys with the best chins in the business like Merqui Sosa, Malinga, Castro, even James Toney he hurt to the body at one point, Reggie Johnson, Virgill Hill(a big cruiserweight now)".

Kessler didnt spar or hit the bags prior to the Calzaghe fight??

I think you will find he did plenty of sparring and i know for a fact and there is footage knocking about of him sparring Peter Haymar and Brian Mcgee leading upto the fight.