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    Default Re: Boxers fight for MONEY not glory. Fact.

    I usually am reluctant to give the guy credit, but Froch came to the US to fight Taylor, and although I'm sure he was paid handsomely to do so, he took a risk he didn't have to take. He could easily have stayed in Nottingham fighting nobodies and making the same amount of money. He did it without any british tv exposure either.

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    Default Re: Boxers fight for MONEY not glory. Fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I usually am reluctant to give the guy credit, but Froch came to the US to fight Taylor, and although I'm sure he was paid handsomely to do so, he took a risk he didn't have to take. He could easily have stayed in Nottingham fighting nobodies and making the same amount of money. He did it without any british tv exposure either.
    Thats a good example. He really didnt need to take that fight so early on as a belt holder but went out and did it regardless. Nearly cost him, but it worked dividends. That's a possible quest for glory IMO.

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    Default Re: Boxers fight for MONEY not glory. Fact.

    Kid Thunder fights for 50 pence and a bunch of grapes, so that aint about the Benjamins

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    Default Re: Boxers fight for MONEY not glory. Fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    ... 50 pence and a bunch of grapes, ...
    Which reminds me, I haven't seen much of Trainer around lately.

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    Default Re: Boxers fight for MONEY not glory. Fact.

    To clarify, i think that we could split the boxing world up into two tiers, to be general.. The first would be the guys who want to become champs. These are the guys who still may be unproven and will do anything to get in the spotlight and get a title.. these are the guys who would take any fight which felt they would have a better chance to become the champ, nearly regardless of pay, because they know if they succeed they will have better pay-days in the future.

    the second tier would be current/former champs. these guys know, or at least feel they are worth a certain amount. it's one of those, "if you want to see me fight, and i know you do, pay me"..

    In other sports, it's the same way, but players don't get criticized because they're on a team and it's not completely up to that one player to make matchups happen. But plenty of football and baseball players hold out until they get what they feel they are worth.. It again comes back to the whole, "i know that someone else will pay me" idea..

    I'm not sure that we can criticize too much about this topic, considering if i were offered another job, which may be more challenging but i get paid more money, i would take it.. or if i was offered a difficult job for a pay that i felt wasn't sufficient, i may not take it.. It's just when you have guys like PBF and the lot that demand a certain ridiculous amount, and don't get it, and then the fight doesn't get made, that bothers me........

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    Default Re: Boxers fight for MONEY not glory. Fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I usually am reluctant to give the guy credit, but Froch came to the US to fight Taylor, and although I'm sure he was paid handsomely to do so, he took a risk he didn't have to take. He could easily have stayed in Nottingham fighting nobodies and making the same amount of money. He did it without any british tv exposure either.
    Thats a good example. He really didnt need to take that fight so early on as a belt holder but went out and did it regardless. Nearly cost him, but it worked dividends. That's a possible quest for glory IMO.
    Hmm... maybe, Froch deserves credit for this fight but

    1. Froch got a career high payday - around £500,000. He would have needed a few home defences to make that (i would guess).

    2. The fight was on-off, on-off, on-off.. why? Money. Team Taylor said Froch wanted too much, Team Froch said Taylor's demands were unreasonable.

    Had Froch had a more lucrative offer to fight a lesser name at home, does anyone truly believe he would have turned it down to get Taylor's scalp? I would highly doubt it.
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    Default Re: Boxers fight for MONEY not glory. Fact.

    They do and i don't blame any of them. When it's all said and done try gathering up all your fans to help your 75 year old ass pay your medical bills with a big fat check of glory. Try sending you kids to college and say you wanna pay with glory, hell even the movie glory aint worth shit today. These guys risk thier lives (especially with guys like marga cheato out there) fans will talk shit about ya, say you're ducking blah blah and ask ricky hatton where they all are when you loose, and shit he's only lost to the two best fighters on the planet. Look i hate it too, i think it's crummy that guys like b-hop can sit around sucking up a ranking by outpricing himself to everyone, when he really should fight dawson so on and so forth....but it's just the way things are. All athleates are like this these days, you can't even collect playing cards these days the guys hop around from contract to contract so much. Money is king. Sad but true.
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    To lump all fighters into one category with such a sweeping statement, seems ludicrous, IMO. You got your fighters that only care about money, and you got your fighters that truly enjoy the sport, and care about their place in boxing history. Maybe when you're starting out, or when you're a journeyman fighter, maybe then you only care about money. But when you've reached the upper echelons of the sport, and you've already made your first few millions... how much more money do you really need? If I thought that money was the ONLY thing that all fighters ever cared about, I'd probably wouldn't be such a fan.

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    Default Re: Boxers fight for MONEY not glory. Fact.

    Any pro fighter who does not fight for money as one off the primary reasons he fights, should lose his licence there and then, as he is clearly punch drunk.
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    Default Re: Boxers fight for MONEY not glory. Fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by Britkid View Post
    Any pro fighter who does not fight for money as one off the primary reasons he fights, should lose his licence there and then, as he is clearly punch drunk.
    "One of..." Very important qualifier, and very different from "only."


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    Default Re: Boxers fight for MONEY not glory. Fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    To lump all fighters into one category with such a sweeping statement, seems ludicrous, IMO. You got your fighters that only care about money, and you got your fighters that truly enjoy the sport, and care about their place in boxing history. Maybe when you're starting out, or when you're a journeyman fighter, maybe then you only care about money. But when you've reached the upper echelons of the sport, and you've already made your first few millions... how much more money do you really need? If I thought that money was the ONLY thing that all fighters ever cared about, I'd probably wouldn't be such a fan.
    Can you name the fighters that have earned a few million who then chase nothing but glory (resume enhancing) fights at the expense of bigger money? (That was one of the questions asked in the very FIRST post of this thread. It wasn't just a title )

    Money dictates the match-up. If the money isn't RIGHT the fight doesn't happen. Simple as.
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    Default Re: Boxers fight for MONEY not glory. Fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    To lump all fighters into one category with such a sweeping statement, seems ludicrous, IMO. You got your fighters that only care about money, and you got your fighters that truly enjoy the sport, and care about their place in boxing history. Maybe when you're starting out, or when you're a journeyman fighter, maybe then you only care about money. But when you've reached the upper echelons of the sport, and you've already made your first few millions... how much more money do you really need? If I thought that money was the ONLY thing that all fighters ever cared about, I'd probably wouldn't be such a fan.
    Can you name the fighters that have earned a few million who then chase nothing but glory (resume enhancing) fights at the expense of bigger money? (That was one of the questions asked in the very FIRST post of this thread. It wasn't just a title )

    Money dictates the match-up. If the money isn't RIGHT the fight doesn't happen. Simple as.
    What if fighters avoid big pay days to go after fights which pay less, but are less risky.. Hence to keep their zero.. But that's not really fighting for glory either.. it's fighting to look good on paper.... Even if it costs you money...

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