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    Default Re: "Why Manny Pacquiao will beat Mayweather Jr."

    Quote Originally Posted by Quinito View Post
    Excellent article. But I have to wait and see Mayweather's performance against Marquez before I (fully) criticize Floyd.

    It's a really good article, but the "Pacquiao will make Mayweather look like an amateur" part is just plain silly.
    I'm with you on that buddy.

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    Default Re: "Why Manny Pacquiao will beat Mayweather Jr."

    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mofo2 View Post
    A ring rusty Floyd will be severely tested against Manny and if he is as sharp as he was against Hatton..He beats Floyd!

    On the other hand if Floyd performs well and the time away has'nt affected him...He will pick Manny off at will!!

    This one we will have to wait and see on...because if Floyd comes back sharp its gonna be fascinating to watch and a severe test for both of them!

    You might be right about the rustiness bud. In that case I see Floyd getting in the groove and taking control by about the 5th or 6th round.

    The big difference between PAC and Floyd, is that Floyd is multi-dimensional. It's one thing for PAC to beat the snot out of a guy who just charges in head first, but we'll see how PAC does when he fights a top athlete with tons of savvy, who knows how to adapt to the situation and present different game plans.
    The bigger difference is that Floyd is significantly bigger than Manny in reach and height. A good big man beats a good small man. That is the difference. Why do you think Roach wants the fight at 143?

    Let me ask two questions: (1) all things being equal regarding previous victories etc., does a win do more for Pac or PBF's legacy? The answer is easy: Pac's legacy because he would be beating a bigger, former #1 p4p fighter whereas Floyd would merely be beating a smaller #1 p4p fighter. (2) Who will be the betting favorite for this fight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarugo View Post
    Manny hasn't faced a fighter like Floyd and Floyd hasn't faced a fighter like Manny. Pac's style is NOT basic, and he is far from predictable. Aside from that, Manny's countenance before fights is unbelievable. While many fighters put on a scowl to project toughness, Manny is always unbelievably relaxed, smiling and even joking around. The only pre-fight scowl I've seen on him was Morales III. It shows his mental preparation and state of mind. It will be a good fight. I think Manny is faster than Floyd, and the Zab Judah fight is a very good guage of how this fight will turn out. Manny's state of mind, focus and tenacity is much more than Zab's or anybody that Floyd ever faced. I think Manny can KO Floyd because he is now a two-fisted fighting machine and with much improved defense. I can't see how Floyd can hurt Manny if he hardly stands still. In a blink of an eye, Manny can hit him with a left and disappear from view. All mayweather can do is fight backing up with his shoulder-roll. But knowing Floyd, he can adjust. It remains to be seen how Manny makes out of Floyd's shoulder roll. For the first time in his career, Mayweather will feel the hurt- bloodied nose and all, even if he wins.
    Good Post. Pac will make Floyd work like never before, but Floyd will use defense and movement to win the fight on points.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post
    Floyd has the advantage in this fight since he is a defensive master and is good at not getting hit. Pacquaio isnt and gets hit alot. I think that will be the difference in this fight. I think the fight will be very competitive in the first 6 rounds with Pac forcing the action and Floyd countering but in the middle and late rounds Floyd will pull ahead....IMO

    I dont see a KO in this fight. Floyd on close decision.
    Good post.

    The only advantage I see for Pac is that one of the criteria for judging a round is effective aggression. Floyd, as of recent, has not been aggressive whereas Pac's aggression has been highly effective. There is the potential for Pac to win rounds based on this alone.

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    Default Re: "Why Manny Pacquiao will beat Mayweather Jr."

    I have mixed feelings about this debate. I have never been a huge Floyd fan. I have always stated he is the most skilled and fluid fighter in recent years...but his resume has always made me question his legacy. He has fought some very solid fighters...but he never seemed to be involved in fights against PRIME, GREAT fighters. Now, whether that is his fault or not...is debatable. As for Pac, no question he has tremendous courage...he has fought some of the best fighters in the business and has improved dramatically from when he first burst onto the scene. THAT BEING SAID however...i really think people have bought too much into his recent wins over Oscar and Ricky. Don't get me wrong...the man went up in weight and took a risk...and came out on top in spectacular fashion...mad respect. But sometimes things just fall into place for someone. Yes, Manny has improved. But Oscar was a shell if himself in their fight. And Ricky...well, as much as i like his character, the man is not only one dimensional...but his ballooning in weight over the years didn't excatly make him into the force some made him out to be. To get a better sense of how Pac would do against Floyd...you have to look at the Pac vs. Marquez fights. Marquez is a skilled, counter puncher. Marquez is certainly no young buck...but i personally had both his fights with Manny as AT LEAST A DRAW. And as great as Marquez is...he is not anywhere close to being the athlete and skilled defensive fighter Floyd is. Having said all of this...i think this will be a great fight. Floyd has never fought such a prime, CONFIDENT, and great athlete like Manny. But knowing Floyd is incredible with his physical preparation...i think he would come into this fight wanting to cement his legacy. And Manny has NEVER fought someone as fluid, skilled, and intelligent as Floyd. But i think some people are so excited over Pac Mania...they just think Pac is going to roll over everyone he faces. Not going to happen. Hope we get to see this fight!

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    Default Re: "Why Manny Pacquiao will beat Mayweather Jr."

    People truly underestimate Floyd's power. I think he would and could hit Pacquiao harder then he has ever been hit with his punches. I think he hits harder then Marquez especially if they fight at 143 I honestly believe Mayweather hits harder then Marquez, he knocked out Hatton going backwards with a left hook, I don't care what anyone says that was impressive. Pacquiao hits very hard for his weight but I don't think he'll be hit with as many shots as Mayweather would hit him with. I think I can know that if it was Mayweather hitting him instead of Marquez in those fights Pacquiao probably would have been stopped. No disrespect to Pacquiao but had that been Mayweather hitting him, it would have been over within 10 rounds

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    Default Re: "Why Manny Pacquiao will beat Mayweather Jr."

    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    People truly underestimate Floyd's power. I think he would and could hit Pacquiao harder then he has ever been hit with his punches. I think he hits harder then Marquez especially if they fight at 143 I honestly believe Mayweather hits harder then Marquez, he knocked out Hatton going backwards with a left hook, I don't care what anyone says that was impressive. Pacquiao hits very hard for his weight but I don't think he'll be hit with as many shots as Mayweather would hit him with. I think I can know that if it was Mayweather hitting him instead of Marquez in those fights Pacquiao probably would have been stopped. No disrespect to Pacquiao but had that been Mayweather hitting him, it would have been over within 10 rounds
    Yeah, Floyd KOed Hatton while going backwards. But you forgot to add Hatton leaped on Floyd - lunging in so fast when he got caught with the check hook.

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